So, how is it going?
I hit chapter 5 which is where T3s show up in the spire. The addition of the extra goods to the diplomacy option seriously reduced the overall drain on my goods. I am actually getting ahead !
Does that happen in woodelves with the addition of orcs?
This is an older post. I no longer negotiate as much in the Spire. Under the old system where all of your military facilities shared the same queue, you could only train troops in 1 building at a time. Under that system I could only make enough troops to do the tournament, so I primarily negotiated the Spire. But now I can run my barracks, training grounds, and mercenary camp all at once. With the additional troop production I now primarily fight in both tournament and spire. I only cater/negotiate if I see an unfavorable lineup of enemy troops.
I do think that had the way military facilities work not changed and had I continued trying to negotiate in Spire I would have had issues making enough Orcs. At the time. Keep in mind this post also predates the Witch Hut. A fully evolved stage 10 Witch Hut is one of the best Orc producers in the game. I think a player with a good Witch Hut, 3 or 4 leveled armories, and maybe a few Orc Nests could easily make enough Orcs to fully negotiate the Spire.