@Alram based on feedback from more established players, it is more difficult for them to climb the Spire than it is for me in chapter 4, especially as they haven't planned their cities to accomplish this. But I'm guessing
@Lelanya was talking about people who newly join the fellowship, as opposed to people who were already there and didn't have that requirement when they joined.
Again: 5 full years leading in some capacity in Elvenar, am not looking for advice at this point. Please try and avoid sounding like you are trying to do that.
My signature fellowship is Boudicca's Iceni (original, EN2) as my EN Forum signature incorporates the concept of Boudicca, leader of the Iceni, war leader of the Celts, at a watershed time in Great Britain history. Of course Frog boss is listed in the FS requirements, and of course like all Celtic groups we have/are debating this, with an assurance to our members who joined under different rules, that they will be allowed to grow into their strength so long as they are doing the best they can. I have all along stated in the Gold Spire debate, that I AM a large somewhat older FS that has served as a model in the past for extreme performance; like all FSs of this type, we got bogged down a bit and have fallen off the pace. I would never rule out this crew though, our rebound has started.
It still would be best for me, for my crew, to have a record, even if only internal, of how the individual members performed in Spire. Inno introduced this idea, made it the new equivalent of '10 chests' and now leaves us without the support of knowing how we are each doing so far as progress.
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@Iyapo1 this is approximately 3 players around your own level. As their leader of course I have their back