DeletedUser10771
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Is it just me, or is anyone else finding the 3 star frogs to powerful for the second round of the crystal tourney, makes me wonder how strong they will be in round 3
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DeletedUser14457
Guest
Yes, i would also like to find out. The frog princes are too powerful.
NightshadeCS
Well-Known Member
There are a few threads that deal with this subject. Take a look at them and see if you can find some helpful tips there. I am bad at fighting, myself, so this is the best I can do! 
DeletedUser24458
Guest
Yes, I feel the frogs are a bit tough as well even in the first two rounds which I normally handle easily. I do not have much advice either as I am still very clumsy with fighting
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
They have been in the game for over nine weeks now. We had to deal with them in the last Crystal tournament. Basically, if you are not advanced enough in the game to have 3-star mage and heavy melee troops, you may have trouble. My 3-star mage-type troops from the Training Grounds make easy work of the 3-star frogs, as long as there are not too many enemy light melee troops in the mix. And when you have a mix of frogs and light melee, with no enemy mage troops, your heavy melee does well. A side note, if the frogs are still beating you, the map layout may be heavily to your disadvantage, and that is hard to work around sometimes.
Black watch
Well-Known Member
yes, yes and yes... it's all be INNO-fied...
DeletedUser10771
Guest
Thanks All that replied,
I fought in my smaller city on Cervyn first, Alderion was correct in what he stated, as I had no problem with the troops in my larger city on Khel,. The frogs are a problem for the lower chapters,.
I fought in my smaller city on Cervyn first, Alderion was correct in what he stated, as I had no problem with the troops in my larger city on Khel,. The frogs are a problem for the lower chapters,.
Mykan
Oh Wise One
There are a few threads that deal with this subject. Take a look at them and see if you can find some helpful tips there. I am bad at fighting, myself, so this is the best I can do!
Helps to note at the time of some of those threads that there was a known bug that applied our buffs to the enemy. So those threads need to be taken lightly in that context. The current tournament is a fairer test of the changes as the bug has been solved.
Granted for smaller towns it is always tough facing off against 3 star troops when you only have 1 and 2 star troops. That difference is only exaggerated more when their troops are ranged and yours are not.
mucksterme
Oh Wise One
my banshees seem to have no trouble eating them
with fire bird active of course
with fire bird active of course
kctanzen
Well-Known Member
Even with the battle boost bug fix ..... Frog Princes have overtaken MistWalkers at the top of the heap for my most despised enemy troops!
Banshees work quite well, this is true -- I seem to get 2 or 3 dogs accompanying those blasted frogs, which rip my banshees to shreds.
Ahh well -- will keep working at it to find a good combination to make it reasonable ... I don't get enough 8 hour instants to be burning through a few extra queues replenishing troops for crystal, scrolls, and dust.
Other option .. scale back to a more reasonably sustainable effort .... I may be overextending a bit.
Many thanks for the feedback and help I have received from the good folks here along the way!
Banshees work quite well, this is true -- I seem to get 2 or 3 dogs accompanying those blasted frogs, which rip my banshees to shreds.
Ahh well -- will keep working at it to find a good combination to make it reasonable ... I don't get enough 8 hour instants to be burning through a few extra queues replenishing troops for crystal, scrolls, and dust.
Other option .. scale back to a more reasonably sustainable effort .... I may be overextending a bit.
Many thanks for the feedback and help I have received from the good folks here along the way!
MinMax Gamer
Well-Known Member
When Frog Princes are accompanied by dogs, Vallorian Champions can take care of them with relative ease, even in 6* rounds. VCs are not available until mid-chapter 15 though, and I can't say how much worse 2* Vallorian Guards would be in this situation.
Mykan
Oh Wise One
But they can be obtained by crafting their building from the MA.
kctanzen
Well-Known Member
These set ups frequently come with a couple of mages too .. which I'm still juggling to find the right combination / set up to manage (auto fight .. manual is far, far too slow)
I have several vallorian valor and grounds of orc strategist buildings spitting out free specialists -- the units auto-upgrade when the tech is unlocked.
Discussing potential units is well and good for when one is able to train the units -- dealing with these frogs at mid Amuni progress (and going slowly at that) is what I'm finding a challenge.
I have several vallorian valor and grounds of orc strategist buildings spitting out free specialists -- the units auto-upgrade when the tech is unlocked.
Discussing potential units is well and good for when one is able to train the units -- dealing with these frogs at mid Amuni progress (and going slowly at that) is what I'm finding a challenge.
qaccy
Well-Known Member
They can, but MM was talking specifically about the 3-star variant, which do still have to be unlocked in order to produce.
To that end, it's pretty much a wash between 3* paladins and 2* VGs. My recommendation is to train whatever you can produce more quickly. Some fights suffer heavy losses due to terrain. I'm also using priests quite often, for most battles that have no more than 1 dog. Banshees might be slightly better in these situations, but I have a 1:33 training time in my barracks compared to 2:20 in my TG so I'm sticking firmly with priests to cover any mage needs.
MinMax Gamer
Well-Known Member
You may want to invest a bit in Victory Springs AW. I do remember times when my TG produced about 50% slower than the rest of the military producers (well, that was most of the game). It was terrible.
qaccy
Well-Known Member
Haven't gotten around to maxing it yet. Life's hard and slow with only one account, you know!
mucksterme
Oh Wise One
When their toads are accompanied by more than one dog
i send 2 toads with my banshees and go manual
i send 2 toads with my banshees and go manual