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Fair trade and fellowships

BrinDarby

Well-Known Member
**I admit I do not understand how 11420 is +15% of 10000.

Ok, +14.2% , I call'd it 15% cause thats rounded.

Buyers should have the option to take 10%, 50%, or 100% of a listed trade.

As in the suggestion/thread , what like 6-7 mo ago ....
what this does is, using a hidden way, it allows (whales) to make sure
not 1 person... from thier size, down to a small fry , doesn't have 1:1
trades available... thus undercutting anyone trying for profit. They can
currently undercut smaller offers, but they have to list those smaller
offers. This eliminates that barrier and that is its main function.
Doesn't matter how good a pig smells, its still a pig...

if Soggy wants to undercut @ 10% volume of his offers, he can just
list said offers now in the current system.... sry Soggy ya don't get to
be lazy about it.... if u wanna undercut, put some effort into it , plz.
 

samidodamage

Buddy Fan Club member
Ok, +14.2% , I call'd it 15% cause thats rounded.
Maybe that's 'really new math', but when I went to school, everything 5 and up rounded up; everything 4 and down rounded down.
But, I expect curmudgeons to pick a number between 14 and 14.4 and round up because it benefits them.
undercutting anyone trying for profit
Yep. Not interested in anyone trying to profit off goods.
Doesn't matter how good a pig smells, its still a pig...
Correct. It still stinks when players try to profit off other players in a CO-OP!
 

SoggyShorts

Mathematician par Excellence
They[whales] can currently undercut smaller offers, but they have to list those smaller
offers.
As you say, if these supposed whales actually cared about the profit they already could undercut you.
You're playing a strange little game that no one cares about. Being an advanced player in a baby city to prey upon the new and desperate. Your tiny trading city isn't even on the advanced player's radar. We have 100s of millions of goods - you aren't even in the same league.
if u wanna undercut, put some effort into it , plz.
How about you put some effort in? Instead of staying in the game's easiest chapter amassing some paltry amount of goods try to grow a little and actually produce something. You get a +700% bonus to production, use it to undercut all of the 1:1 trades.
Try a real challenge and actually contribute to the game at the same time.
 

BrinDarby

Well-Known Member
As you say, if these supposed whales actually cared about the profit they already could undercut you.
You're playing a strange little game that no one cares about. Being an advanced player in a baby city to prey upon the new and desperate. Your tiny trading city isn't even on the advanced player's radar. We have 100s of millions of goods - you aren't even in the same league.
I didn't say for the whales to profit, open ur ears.......
you've got 100 of millions, so you could put a 10m : 10m offer up,
force your absurd 1:1 rule , and anyone even asking 100 : 101 ....
well your offer is cheaper, why would someone pay 1 if they don't
have to..... Duhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
use it to undercut all of the 1:1 trades.
So what, you want me to now , give away my goods @ less than 1:1 ??
How about you put some effort in? Instead of staying in the game's easiest chapter amassing some paltry amount of goods try to grow a little and actually produce something.
actually other ppl have said CH4-6 is a real pain, and they're right.
Once you get past CH7-8, so Its been told here, even you said....
@ a certain point a person transistions from cater only to fight only.
yeah, well thats around CH7-8.....

I'll put some effort into it, into your disinformation campaign.......
You're dead wrong on pretty much everything about me, but hey
just like Trump, keep saying it enough times, maybee ppl will believe
you.

I'm a great neighbor and FS member, plus our FS members always
get what they need, asap. I put effort into making things better for
everyone, even if it hurts me personally. I've always had a plan on
how I was gonna play here, its just not your plan.... Seems anyone
whom also doesn't progress @ your view of pace, is wrong too...
just like anyone with other views on trade.

Feel free to correct me if I say a banana is red, but don't tell me
I'm not allowed or stupid because I like bananas not apples.
 

Darielle

Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
I didn't say for the whales to profit, open ur ears.......
you've got 100 of millions, so you could put a 10m : 10m offer up,
force your absurd 1:1 rule , and anyone even asking 100 : 101 ....
well your offer is cheaper, why would someone pay 1 if they don't
have to..... Duhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what, you want me to now , give away my goods @ less than 1:1 ??

actually other ppl have said CH4-6 is a real pain, and they're right.
Once you get past CH7-8, so Its been told here, even you said....
@ a certain point a person transistions from cater only to fight only.
yeah, well thats around CH7-8.....

I'll put some effort into it, into your disinformation campaign.......
You're dead wrong on pretty much everything about me, but hey
just like Trump, keep saying it enough times, maybee ppl will believe
you.

I'm a great neighbor and FS member, plus our FS members always
get what they need, asap. I put effort into making things better for
everyone, even if it hurts me personally. I've always had a plan on
how I was gonna play here, its just not your plan.... Seems anyone
whom also doesn't progress @ your view of pace, is wrong too...
just like anyone with other views on trade.

Feel free to correct me if I say a banana is red, but don't tell me
I'm not allowed or stupid because I like bananas not apples.

Although I have often been at odds with you, Brin, there is one sentence in this long post that raises my opinion of you. At least you're not a ... okay, I can't go off topic here, but that's comforting. See? If you wait long enough you always find something in common with someone. :)
 

Killy-

Well-Known Member
I didn't say for the whales to profit, open ur ears.......
you've got 100 of millions, so you could put a 10m : 10m offer up,
force your absurd 1:1 rule , and anyone even asking 100 : 101 ....
well your offer is cheaper, why would someone pay 1 if they don't
have to..... Duhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is correct, nobody would take your scam if they can take a decent offer instead. I thought you were advertising for a free market?
 

SoggyShorts

Mathematician par Excellence
you've got 100 of millions, so you could put a 10m : 10m offer up,
force your absurd 1:1 rule , and anyone even asking 100 : 101 ....
well your offer is cheaper, why would someone pay 1 if they don't
have to..... Duhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I put up a 10m:10m offer and players were allowed to take 10%, then that's 1 million goods. You'd still be able to place your little price gauging trades and they'd still be listed above mine for anyone who can't afford mine.
"Duhhh" indeed.
You're dead wrong on pretty much everything about me
Feel free to actually correct me. Are you in a Gold spire FS? Did your ugly trades not make finding one who would accept you harder?
actually other ppl have said CH4-6 is a real pain, and they're right.
False. Progressing through those chapters is perhaps slightly more challenging compared to the tutorial. Duh.
Once you get past CH7-8, so Its been told here, even you said....
@ a certain point a person transistions from cater only to fight only.
False again. Some players transition to "pure" fighters at that point. Many players continue to fully cater or hybrid.
I've always had a plan on
how I was gonna play here
Ah yes, the great secret plan we've been hearing about for over a year. A plan so lame, so poorly thought out, and indefensible that you won't even share it for fear of ridicule. OK.

I'm a great neighbor
If you think charging a 15% premium is "great", imagine how fantastic a 1:1 or a 3-star neighbor is. :rolleyes:
 
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Myne

Oh Wise One
actually other ppl have said CH4-6 is a real pain, and they're right.
Once you get past CH7-8, so Its been told here, even you said....
@ a certain point a person transistions from cater only to fight only.
yeah, well thats around CH7-8.....

I don't know who these "other people" are, but chapters 4 and 5 are not bad at all....pretty breezy in fact. I will agree chapter 6 is a pain.
The "@ a certain point.." statement doesn't work for everyone. I have a hybrid city in chapter 12. Doable. And, really, how would you know about chapters 7-8? Do you play under another name?
Come on out into the light and away from the soap box and PLAY.
 

Iyapo1

Well-Known Member
False. Progressing through those chapters is perhaps slightly more challenging compared to the tutorial.
o_O

Did you just move the tutorial down to chapter 3? The horror!


@BrinDarby Something to keep in mind, many of the players on the forum who switched to fighting in chapter 8 did so for 1 reason. Orcs.
They had to have them and Armories were initially the only way to get them. It was way more efficient to switch to fighting when they had to plant several fully upgraded armories to produce orcs.
I am still happily catering in chapter 9. But I am not competitive in the tournaments. I top the spire and get 4-5k in the tournaments. I am usually happy with that.
As for your tiny city...that is what you wanted and you are having fun with it, which is all that matters. But your playstyle means that your opinions in some areas are questionable, it is what it is. No one should ever listen to me about guest races(lv30BTG), fighting, sentient goods, or a slew of other things.
 

Sprite1313

Well-Known Member
IMHO, you need to look hard at the FS you are playing in. If you are posting fair trades and none of your FS are taking those trades, there is something wrong there.

It's also possible that the FS goods are out of balance. If everyone is boosted in planks, it's not surprising that those trades aren't picked up. Of course, this goes back to possibly looking for a new FS where your boosted goods are a better fit.
 

Sprite1313

Well-Known Member
You know, that would be a good dedicated post with a poll after discussion. I think that would be a positive change to the trader. jmho
Didn't we have a suggestion on that a few months ago? Did it ever get to the "vote" stage? (or did I drink too much for New Year's and my brain is fried?)
 
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