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SoulsSilhouette

Buddy Fan Club member
copyrights last in perpetuity. For instance... if you are using a new slogan... say Once more unto the breach dear friends once more. The games afoot. Cry God for Harry, England and St. George.... even in its abbreviated state, it's Shakespeare.... Henry V. It has been used in Sherlock Holmes and various other places. His work has been reproduced in many forms... but no one can claim ownership over the work because it is quintessentially Shakespeare. Tolkien's work, as little of it as there is... is still copyrighted. His family trust owns the copyright. Thats how most authors apply the copyright so that even after death, their work remains theirs.

I really miss having the gems site active. It helped me understand a lot of stuff about this game, especially in the beginning. I didn't always follow the advice, but I miss that perspective being there...
 

Dew Spinner

Well-Known Member
copyrights last in perpetuity. For instance... if you are using a new slogan... say Once more unto the breach dear friends once more. The games afoot. Cry God for Harry, England and St. George.... even in its abbreviated state, it's Shakespeare.... Henry V. It has been used in Sherlock Holmes and various other places. His work has been reproduced in many forms... but no one can claim ownership over the work because it is quintessentially Shakespeare. Tolkien's work, as little of it as there is... is still copyrighted. His family trust owns the copyright. Thats how most authors apply the copyright so that even after death, their work remains theirs.

I really miss having the gems site active. It helped me understand a lot of stuff about this game, especially in the beginning. I didn't always follow the advice, but I miss that perspective being there...
The Archive sweeps 1.13 Billion websites regularly, wouldn't they have already been sued to death, if what they were doing was illegal? I just checked and Gems is still on the archive.
 
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SoulsSilhouette

Buddy Fan Club member
The difference here is that the site gives full credit to Elvenar, hence INNOGAMES.

I have not noticed anything on that site where the owner takes full credit for anything, even their own intellectual property.

I wrote a dissertation on the similarities between different works of literature, choosing an older piece comparing it to a modern piece. One of the sections was dedicated to fantasy novels... The Hobbit/LotR versus the Harry Potter novels.... and I used direct quotes, etc as you do. I had to footnote etc. Even though the dissertation is my personal intellectual property, the actual meat of it wasn't mine. Its sort of the same thing. I didn't 'steal' or appropriate any material to represent it as my own, even though the opinions expressed therein, were my own. Just as the hints and suggestions are the intellectual property of the site creator/owner.
 

Dew Spinner

Well-Known Member
The difference here is that the site gives full credit to Elvenar, hence INNOGAMES.

I have not noticed anything on that site where the owner takes full credit for anything, even their own intellectual property.

I wrote a dissertation on the similarities between different works of literature, choosing an older piece comparing it to a modern piece. One of the sections was dedicated to fantasy novels... The Hobbit/LotR versus the Harry Potter novels.... and I used direct quotes, etc as you do. I had to footnote etc. Even though the dissertation is my personal intellectual property, the actual meat of it wasn't mine. Its sort of the same thing. I didn't 'steal' or appropriate any material to represent it as my own, even though the opinions expressed therein, were my own. Just as the hints and suggestions are the intellectual property of the site creator/owner.
Still...wouldn't they have already been sued to death, if what they were doing was illegal?...You didn't answer this question, how has the Archive site been in business, publicly since 2005 and have swept 1.13 billion sites regularly, even though they are violating the copyright laws daily but still remain in business. I am genuinely curious how this would happen?
 

Silly Bubbles

You cant pop them all
There seem to be layers of copyright. Internet archive copyright. Elvengems copyright. Elvenar copyright. To me, it all comes down to Elvenar/Inno copyright because it's mainly based on their works.
 

Lelanya

Scroll-Keeper, Keys to the Gems
Tcha!
Still does not mean that you can help yourself to advice guides that were written by Gems' founders.
 

Mrietha

Active Member
It is possible that the Archive can copy the material because they
1. Copy the site in its entirety
2. Do nothing to change whose website it is. That is they do not claim it as their own.
3. They make no profit from it.
4. There is no change in ownership. The change is where it is being hosted.
 

C-Nymph

Active Member
I THINK...You can find "Elven Gems..." on the WayBack Machine.
Once you get on the WayBack Website...you can put ElvenGems in the search line.
Last updated posts were in May '23...I don't have the link addy...but someone must have...
Excellent suggestion! Totally forgot we had that option, I love the Way Back Machine!
 

hvariidh gwendrot

Well-Known Member
a good example is the davinci man, uncopyrightable as it has been in public domain for very long time, and it's used as a logo for gajillions of people, but it's always the davinci man
 
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