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Halloween

Enevhar Aldarion

Oh Wise One
It has not started on Beta yet, so we can't really talk about it here without the thread getting locked and deleted. And no clue if any of the previous Halloween buildings will be brought back as daily prizes, but we can hope so. But keep an eye on the Beta spoiler thread, because that is where the event will be discussed as soon as it does start on the Beta server. :)
 

Deleted User - 4565442

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huge culture, quite nice population, produces frog units, orc resource and 3 KP every 24h
 
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The Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
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huge culture, quite nice population, produces frog units, orc resource and 3 KP every 24h
If that holds up, then it's easily a 'must-have' for Humans who haven't yet unlocked Frogs... as much as I love the artwork for the new Moon Bear, I'll likely have to forego it and place this instead.
Orks resource is also a critical bonus, since Inno is murdering that resource between the new gakked-up tournaments + spire + obnoxious upgrade costs now. While I'm still sitting at the end of Orks, I am still worried about just how quickly my boyz will be pillaged by new upgrades + spire + tournies + world map vs. my ability to produce them. ;)

I take it this is a 4x4 building?
 

Deleted User - 4565442

Guest
If that holds up, then it's easily a 'must-have' for Humans who haven't yet unlocked Frogs... as much as I love the artwork for the new Moon Bear, I'll likely have to forego it and place this instead.
Orks resource is also a critical bonus, since Inno is murdering that resource between the new gakked-up tournaments + spire + obnoxious upgrade costs now. While I'm still sitting at the end of Orks, I am still worried about just how quickly my boyz will be pillaged by new upgrades + spire + tournies + world map vs. my ability to produce them. ;)

I take it this is a 4x4 building?

yes 4x4
 

Darielle

Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
If that holds up, then it's easily a 'must-have' for Humans who haven't yet unlocked Frogs... as much as I love the artwork for the new Moon Bear, I'll likely have to forego it and place this instead.
Orks resource is also a critical bonus, since Inno is murdering that resource between the new gakked-up tournaments + spire + obnoxious upgrade costs now. While I'm still sitting at the end of Orks, I am still worried about just how quickly my boyz will be pillaged by new upgrades + spire + tournies + world map vs. my ability to produce them. ;)

I take it this is a 4x4 building?
Just wait until you get to S and D and they want tons of mana to convince in the spire. I used to love convincing there. I only started getting enough mana for the spire after I put down my thirteenth festival merchant. Anyway, best of luck to you. Woodelves is something to look forward to, at least. :)
 

Henroo

Oh Wise One
If that holds up, then it's easily a 'must-have' for Humans who haven't yet unlocked Frogs... as much as I love the artwork for the new Moon Bear, I'll likely have to forego it and place this instead.
Actually, I don't think it will be as useful as you think for human players who have not unlocked Frogs. I am playing a human city in Woodelves right now. I am getting Frogs from a Brown Bear. Without any promotions, a Frog is not as good as a level 3 Mortar. The Mortar has higher attack values, longer range, and a special ability.
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Oh Wise One
Actually, I don't think it will be as useful as you think for human players who have not unlocked Frogs. I am playing a human city in Woodelves right now. I am getting Frogs from a Brown Bear. Without any promotions, a Frog is not as good as a level 3 Mortar. The Mortar has higher attack values, longer range, and a special ability.

Mortars are also the slowest unit in the game, regardless of level, so there are maps where they will be wiped out because the enemies can rush up to them and smash them before they even get their first move.
 

Henroo

Oh Wise One
Mortars are also the slowest unit in the game, regardless of level, so there are maps where they will be wiped out because the enemies can rush up to them and smash them before they even get their first move.
Not true. Heavy melee units have lower initiative than either Frogs or Mortars. The Frog has an initiative of 8, the Mortar has initiative of 5. I do not see where there is much difference between the two. Virtually any mage, light melee, or light ranged unit will go before either of them. And virtually any heavy melee unit will go after them. I guess it could matter against other heavy ranged units.
 

The Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Not true. Heavy melee units have lower initiative than either Frogs or Mortars. The Frog has an initiative of 8, the Mortar has initiative of 5. I do not see where there is much difference between the two. Virtually any mage, light melee, or light ranged unit will go before either of them. And virtually any heavy melee unit will go after them. I guess it could matter against other heavy ranged units.
The Frog is specialised vs. Light Infantry - a unit type that Humans are absolutely abysmal at dealing with as Pallies have crap bonuses, while Mortars are just plain hot garbage in general.

Even with Lv3 Mortars vs. Lv1 Frogs, I lose far fewer frogs in the tournaments like elixir that have a high number of enemy light infantry!
By the time they're Lv3, the difference is so ridiculous, that Inno should honestly just remove Mortars from the game - they're that horriawful.
 
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