AussieChick
Active Member
G'day everyone,
Which of the 3 evolving buildings on offer with this new questline do you prefer, and why?
Robby
Which of the 3 evolving buildings on offer with this new questline do you prefer, and why?
Robby
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New evolving building
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Fayeanne
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Well, one of them makes an AW KP instant (now worthless), the second makes Banshees (mostly worthless), and the third makes CCs...which is useful except that it also happens to make my city's boost. It would be nice if it'd make a non-boost rather than just duplicating what I can already make in my manufactories.
Other cities will get different mileage, of course.
Side note: It appears to me that the goods that these buildings make are hard-coded, that is, not based on your boosts? Since I assume most everyone will go for the one that makes CCs, does this mean we are looking at another Scrolls debacle?
Other cities will get different mileage, of course.
Side note: It appears to me that the goods that these buildings make are hard-coded, that is, not based on your boosts? Since I assume most everyone will go for the one that makes CCs, does this mean we are looking at another Scrolls debacle?
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
Depends on your chapter. One gives divine seeds, one gives mana, and one gives troops. So if you are far enough in the game to need seeds or mana, that could make a difference.
TimeMachine
Well-Known Member
Just finished my Arcane Arena in my "Chapter 17-City" it is good looking with that Ifrit on top!
The Arcane Arena gives Mana. I recognized too late that for Divine Seeds I should have chosen the Potionmakers Pedestal.
That's why I will keep on trying to get more artifacts. Maybe I can manage to built it up too.
Anyway I guess I can take good use of that nice designed Arcane Arena, because in chapter 17 I will need large amounts of Mana too.
The Arcane Arena is, by the way, the building that delivers 3KP instants. @Fayeanne said "worthless now".
Ok, because of that new changes the value of KPs has maybe been decreased in general but I always liked to have at least one building in my cities that delivers 3KP instants, since I got used to it by Flower Goblin Epiphany.
I guess just because of that 3KP instant, Flower Goblin Epiphany is my personal most teleported building in Elvenar.
Didn't want to use Royal Restoration on it so teleported it into my Spells Inventory - A few days or weeks later I started to miss them 3KP instants and put it out again.
To me the Arcane Arena is an invitation to save Royal Restoration by not using them on my old Flower Goblin Epiphany.
The Arcane Arena gives Mana. I recognized too late that for Divine Seeds I should have chosen the Potionmakers Pedestal.
That's why I will keep on trying to get more artifacts. Maybe I can manage to built it up too.
Anyway I guess I can take good use of that nice designed Arcane Arena, because in chapter 17 I will need large amounts of Mana too.
The Arcane Arena is, by the way, the building that delivers 3KP instants. @Fayeanne said "worthless now".
Ok, because of that new changes the value of KPs has maybe been decreased in general but I always liked to have at least one building in my cities that delivers 3KP instants, since I got used to it by Flower Goblin Epiphany.
I guess just because of that 3KP instant, Flower Goblin Epiphany is my personal most teleported building in Elvenar.
Didn't want to use Royal Restoration on it so teleported it into my Spells Inventory - A few days or weeks later I started to miss them 3KP instants and put it out again.
To me the Arcane Arena is an invitation to save Royal Restoration by not using them on my old Flower Goblin Epiphany.
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Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
@TimeMachine complete the usual 260 points and you will have 3 Tomes and 8 artifacts, so enough to max 2 bases and an extra base to use whenever the artifacts cycle through the Spire.
TimeMachine
Well-Known Member
Yes! That is the plan! 
I really like that kind of "mutiple choice-event". So everybody, especially those who don't play that much as me, can at least complete one of the three evolving buildings and hopefully nobody ends up frustrated in event!
I really like that kind of "mutiple choice-event". So everybody, especially those who don't play that much as me, can at least complete one of the three evolving buildings and hopefully nobody ends up frustrated in event!
Henroo
Oh Wise One
Potionmakers gives seeds and a combining catalyst daily. With the new AW upgrade requirements, I think it is pretty clear that this is the best building in the event. If I can win 2 fully evolved copies of it and *IF* they introduce a new building which gives extra spell fragments daily in a future event, then maybe I can continue to upgrade my ancient wonders...
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
If you finish with at least 360, and in Gold League, you will get enough artifacts to max all three bases at level 5 right away, so you could have 3 Potionmakers, if you get very lucky or spend diamonds. I have the feeling all the big spenders will be doing this and the minimum for Gold staying under 360 is unlikely. Depending on server, of course.
Henroo
Oh Wise One
I'm not spending that kind of money. I hope I can win 3 bases. And then with future fellowship adventures and with artifacts being put in the spire, I will be able to someday evolve them.
TimeMachine
Well-Known Member
I've built myself a "spell fragments-park"
Takes a little space but this one delivers 3200 spell fragments daily!
It even includes a Creepy Clinic for those who still have to recover from the last changes that were made to the game.
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Spiny
Active Member
I am actually leaning towards the Arcane Arena myself, though I have yet to finalize the decision. The "Ancient Knowledge 3" instant is not worthless. Its value is exactly 136 Spell Fragments, which you can claim by disenchanting it (If you have a level 5 Magic Academy).
This amounts to a daily gain of 15.11 Spell Fragments per day per tile.
By comparison, the popular moonstone library set gives 21.88 Spell Fragments per tile in a day. (25 if you collect every 21 hours).
This amounts to a daily gain of 15.11 Spell Fragments per day per tile.
By comparison, the popular moonstone library set gives 21.88 Spell Fragments per tile in a day. (25 if you collect every 21 hours).
Silver Lady
Well-Known Member
A slight side track here...SF values for fragging AWKP
Values are based on L5 MA.
As I always have plenty of KP and lots of rune shards I think a good way forward for me is to frag all AWKP for SF to use in upgrading my AWs.
| AWKP Value | SF/Instance | SF/KP |
| 1 | 54 | 54 |
| 3 | 136 | 45.3 |
| 5 | 208 | 41.6 |
| 7 | 276 | 39.4 |
| 10 | 374 | 37.4 |
| 15 | 526 | 35.1 |
| 20 | 668 | 33.4 |
| 30 | 940 | 31.3 |
Values are based on L5 MA.
As I always have plenty of KP and lots of rune shards I think a good way forward for me is to frag all AWKP for SF to use in upgrading my AWs.
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
I always have some place to use those, so I would never disenchant them. The one thing most people don't think about are the Portal Profits. Those are worth crazy amounts of spell fragments and, unless someone is rushing the guest race chapters, they just sit in your inventory, slowly accumulating.
Silver Lady
Well-Known Member
@Enevhar Aldarion I am by no means rushing but I use my PPs to keep from building settlement buildings whenever I can so those wouldn’t be my first choice.
SuNaya Dark
Active Member
Hi. I'm still a low-level Chapter player (about to go into Ch 7 - Faeries). Is Flower Goblin Epiphany worth the space for me at my current level?Just finished my Arcane Arena in my "Chapter 17-City" it is good looking with that Ifrit on top!
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The Arcane Arena gives Mana. I recognized too late that for Divine Seeds I should have chosen the Potionmakers Pedestal.
That's why I will keep on trying to get more artifacts. Maybe I can manage to built it up too.
Anyway I guess I can take good use of that nice designed Arcane Arena, because in chapter 17 I will need large amounts of Mana too.
The Arcane Arena is, by the way, the building that delivers 3KP instants. @Fayeanne said "worthless now".
Ok, because of that new changes the value of KPs has maybe been decreased in general but I always liked to have at least one building in my cities that delivers 3KP instants, since I got used to it by Flower Goblin Epiphany.
I guess just because of that 3KP instant, Flower Goblin Epiphany is my personal most teleported building in Elvenar.
Didn't want to use Royal Restoration on it so teleported it into my Spells Inventory - A few days or weeks later I started to miss them 3KP instants and put it out again.
To me the Arcane Arena is an invitation to save Royal Restoration by not using them on my old Flower Goblin Epiphany.
Thanks.
- SuNaya Dark
Silly Bubbles
I only POP the bad ones
It depends on your needs. If it gives you what you're currently short of then it's worth it. Because you're in a lower chapter, I'd also consider how fast you're planning to advance because once you progress into the next chapter, you'll start having better options or you need to upgrade it and that can be costly. Events are quite frequent, it might be better to get new higher chapter buildings.
SuNaya Dark
Active Member
Yes. This seems to be the consensus. I decided not to get it in the MA, even though my FS could have used the badge in the current FA.
The upside - when the FA is over, if I need fast Spell Frags, I can disenchant the 4 Evolution instants I have for a total of 8k Spell Frags.
I'll take that over having a semi-useful Bldg taking up 16 parking spaces.
Silver Lady
Well-Known Member
@SuNaya Dark
You might also want to check iDavis Here (you‘ll need to type Flower Goblin in the search box) to see what it would give you in later chapters. If you have the artifacts it might be worth saving them and fragging the building to be re-crafted when you’re in a higher chapter. (Recipes for evolving and set buildings won’t show up in the MA if you have the building either in your inventory or your city.)
You might also want to check iDavis Here (you‘ll need to type Flower Goblin in the search box) to see what it would give you in later chapters. If you have the artifacts it might be worth saving them and fragging the building to be re-crafted when you’re in a higher chapter. (Recipes for evolving and set buildings won’t show up in the MA if you have the building either in your inventory or your city.)
SuNaya Dark
Active Member
Thank you. Good info to know.
I may still Disenchant my 4 Evolutions Instants. I don't think (at this point) that I'll need the Flower Goblin event building.
My gaming nature (ever since playing any Final Fantasy game on PlayStation) is Collector. I tend to not get rid of things because - What If...
But in this game it's a matter of Strategy. Placement of certain things can take up SO much room in terms of squares. FF taught me to hoard.
I'll see if I made a mistake later on. I have 2 cities, and different strategies for each one. Thank you for the input. It is appreciated.