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Next Fellowship Adventure
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Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
It is all just rumors on Beta right now. If there is a FA as expected, it would have to start no later than Jan 6th on Beta, and then on Jan 13th on all the Live servers. But nothing will be known until after we get past the weekend and the holidays are over and Inno comes back to work from their silly, long European vacations.........Chevy Chase not included. 
Moho
Chef
Europe has never been a homogenous place, and Inno is a German company. Does Germany grant people silly vacations? I doubt it.
The uncertainty regarding the next FA stems from different causes which, in my opinion, coincide at least partially with the company's interests.
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Deborah M
Oh Wise One
Just experience from past before I retired. I had Dutch & German locations and they did indeed go on 2 week 'holiday' twice a year. They were also under contract employment instead of at will, like most of us, so it seemed universal in my experience. Assuming it hasn't changed in the past few years, their offices are like ghost towns until they return after 2 week holiday. My foreign associates almost universally did not understand why Americans don't take enough vacation
Sir Bently
Member
I think it would help if we Americans took more vacations and just relaxed for 2 weeks I know I could use a vacation who's with me ?
ajqtrz
Chef - loquacious Old Dog
The problem with the two weeks is that the company still has to pay for things...and if everybody working isn't producing that revenue is bound to shrink for at least the two weeks.
On the other hand, rather than a two week vacation I'm for switching jobs for two weeks. You would get a bit of a down in production but you'd also give experience to people doing jobs they don't normally do. That gives you some "depth to your bench." In addition, psychologists say that the best vacations -- the ones where you return fully refreshed instead of drug out from partying for the entire time -- are the ones where you do meaningful work...or at least work different than you were doing before. So by switching jobs you get more productivity than by everyone taking the time off, and you get a better, more refreshed, work force. What's to complain about that?
AJ
On the other hand, rather than a two week vacation I'm for switching jobs for two weeks. You would get a bit of a down in production but you'd also give experience to people doing jobs they don't normally do. That gives you some "depth to your bench." In addition, psychologists say that the best vacations -- the ones where you return fully refreshed instead of drug out from partying for the entire time -- are the ones where you do meaningful work...or at least work different than you were doing before. So by switching jobs you get more productivity than by everyone taking the time off, and you get a better, more refreshed, work force. What's to complain about that?
AJ
Moho
Chef
The first name I chose for my city here was More Holidays.
Deborah M
Oh Wise One
That wasn't really a problem. I had both offices and factories. The factories went down to minimum skeleton crew mostly for safety. The 2 week holidays just had to be accounted for in budgets and projections. When it is the normal way of doing business you just have to plan accordingly.
Perfect example of game reflecting real life. Good planning results in success!
crackie
Chef, Scroll-Keeper, Buddy's #1 Fan
We have a German branch in Munich. They don't work in December, at least the person left not on vacation isn't expected to get much done while everyone else is gone. The French branch doesn't work in August and December. The US branch works with elf games open in the second monitor so I guess we're even. I have said too much...
p.s. Inno is a German company with Swedish overlords.
p.s. Inno is a German company with Swedish overlords.
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
Isn't it the other way around? Elvenar is made by Swedish people, but owned by the German company Innogames?
Sir Bently
Member
Im with at least a 2 week vacation maybe longer like 3 weeks
Henroo
Oh Wise One
I didn't know that. I thought it was an all German company.
Darielle
Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
Americans don't take near enough vacations. But then again, we're behind Europe in so many quality-of-life ways, that I'm not surprised.
BrinDarby
Well-Known Member
How a company does this, will determine if that "cost" is a problem....
Lets keep the math simple here, and lets face it... while you're on vacation
you're Not accrue'n vacation..... (hourly worker) so 50 wks/yr worked.
1/2 a day per week, gets you 10 full days, which equates to your 2 weeks
also assuming 2 days off/week (together), so 5 day work week.
If the company set aside that pay in an acct and took the $ off the books
a little @ a time, in realtime... then had inplace max's for #total ppl that
can take any 1 certain day off ( blocks of days too ) then a few good things occur.
The company, by limiting, always has a workforce of enuff ppl to get the job done.
While @ the same time, when workers do take time off, there would be No drain
on payroll for workers not there yet being paid.
If the government forces companies to give holiday 2 certain times of the year, or ..
if the company allows too many ppl to take the same time off, then yess it would
involve basically shutdowns on a company wide scale.
The problem for many companies is that while workers (may) accrue time off, most
companies do Not take that pay out realtime, therefore it usually can be a problem
when they pay it out all @ once, and not from a reserve acct.
The USA doesn't have the laws that the EU does, to force companies to
give basic time off as a minimum per year. The amount of USA companies that
still offer ..... sick time, personal time, & vacation time, more and more are
dissappearing. Even 30 years ago, those jobs were few & far between.
The Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Well, there was the not-so-subtle hint from the Beta community mod, Hela IIRC?! ...hinting that there was a new event beginning very soon instead.It is all just rumors on Beta right now. If there is a FA as expected, it would have to start no later than Jan 6th on Beta, and then on Jan 13th on all the Live servers. But nothing will be known until after we get past the weekend and the holidays are over and Inno comes back to work from their silly, long European vacations.........Chevy Chase not included.
...and then there's the question of the possibly 2 new event names that got dug up by the code hunters.
Personally, I'm crossing my fingers that 2022 will see a shift in Elvenar more closely following the FoE event calendar, and thus, fewer Fellowship "MISadventures" to wallow through.
As a Canadian, you can happily have our medical system if we can have yours instead.
Darielle
Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
Darielle said:
Americans don't take near enough vacations. But then again, we're behind Europe in so many quality-of-life ways, that I'm not surprised.
As a Canadian, you can happily have our medical system if we can have yours instead.
I'll take that in a heartbeat. I have a Canadian friend who complained to me that they had to get their operation in a hospital 30 miles away, instead of one in the same city. They said Canadian medicine sucked, even though the operation went fine. I asked them how much they paid for it, since I had had the same operation and I had very good insurance, but the copays, out of network costs (which you can't foresee when your doctor decides to get a friend to pop in to consult while you're unconscious) and deductibles killed me. When my friend told me what they paid, I nearly fainted. I bragged that my operation was in a hospital only 3 miles from me, and I only had to pay about a thousand times more than they did lol. My deductibles and copays came out to over 13K, and that's with good insurance. For some reason, that friend isn't complaining about Canadian medicine anymore, hehe.
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