Parking city before guest races

[StarLoad]

Even tho I am not parked as early in the game as you(16), I Learned from Soggy the very first week that Free Troops are the best troops, So I have always kept a series of Vallorian Valors (15 at one time) running until the twin TotT and now 3 Siren's Ballets, Along with Grounds of the Strats (8) and Creepy Clinics (6), Fin Stops(4), Solar Training grounds(5) along with the usual Witch and other troop producing Evolving and set bldgs. Rare is the time I need to use my Brown Bear, besides the free troops, to Keep my troops above 999 squads.

 

[Moho]

Free Troops are the best troops,

Yes, that's my style too. But I use my Brown Bear too. I may do it less in the future due to the rising costs of Pet Food but my Camp is almost full.

 

[Tuschunreal]

I started a small city FS in Harandar to see if we could build a gold spire/10 chest FS with all small cities. It is a challenge so far and I love finding that so many others have done small cities. You guys rock, I appreciate all the experience everyone has shared.

 

[Tuschunreal]

Oops, I meant training grounds which also can't be transported. Doesn't really matter, I will just sell it as it is only lvl4 right now.

If you sell can you turn around later and place them again?

 

[Lelanya]

Training Grounds or Merc Camp can be sold and rebuilt, you betcha.

 

[Smooper]

So I have been making my city more productive to try to achieve my goals of 4000 tourney points and top of the spire each week. This week was the first time I did it. It depleted a lot of my goods and I also had to use 175 or 200 diamonds (didn't keep close track) to hurry and finish the spire before it was over. I can't really do it every week at this point. Will need more tier one goods especially and I may not be able to keep up with the supplies needed.

Hoping to maximize my Aureate Phoenix and my Witty Racoon. Not sure what else I should do to make my supplies and tier 1 goods better though right now. I could use more MM spells but not sure if I can manufacture them at the rate I would need to. I have 14 marble quarries and 10 workshops.

 

[Darielle]

So I have been making my city more productive to try to achieve my goals of 4000 tourney points and top of the spire each week. This week was the first time I did it. It depleted a lot of my goods and I also had to use 175 or 200 diamonds (didn't keep close track) to hurry and finish the spire before it was over. I can't really do it every week at this point. Will need more tier one goods especially and I may not be able to keep up with the supplies needed.

Hoping to maximize my Aureate Phoenix and my Witty Racoon. Not sure what else I should do to make my supplies and tier 1 goods better though right now. I could use more MM spells but not sure if I can manufacture them at the rate I would need to. I have 14 marble quarries and 10 workshops.

The best way to beat the spire and the tourney are through putting down as many 5-day military buildings as you can. Whenever you see an unleashed, a mage multiplier or an enlightened, make sure you craft it. You also really, really need a fire phoenix, so anytime you see phoenix artifacts for that, get them. They're worth it to evolve the fire to level10. With a fed fire phoenix and enough 5-days, you really can't lose fighting in the spire (provided you pick the right troops.)

However, I do negotiate the spire sometimes. I went all the way last week only on negotiation in both my chapter 18 and chapter 10 cities. The Astral Phoenix really helps there, when it's fed. Good luck!

 

[Smooper]

The best way to beat the spire and the tourney are through putting down as many 5-day military buildings as you can. Whenever you see an unleashed, a mage multiplier or an enlightened, make sure you craft it. You also really, really need a fire phoenix, so anytime you see phoenix artifacts for that, get them. They're worth it to evolve the fire to level10. With a fed fire phoenix and enough 5-days, you really can't lose fighting in the spire (provided you pick the right troops.)

However, I do negotiate the spire sometimes. I went all the way last week only on negotiation in both my chapter 18 and chapter 10 cities. The Astral Phoenix really helps there, when it's fed. Good luck!

I forgot to mention, this is a cater only city. I mean, I can fight 2 battles at the start of each tournament but I have only a barracks and no armories. I negotiate and cater everything. My other city was a military city so I wanted to try something different. When I get bored of catering I am going to rebuild this whole city as only military but that is way down the road.

 

[BrinDarby]

@Smooper ,
The biggest hinderance to a cater only City is the dread'd
"placed land penalty" for Spire Catering. I followed Soggy's
example of having only the "best of" bldgs in my city. I made
sure my weekly production was balanced, as the Forum taught
me. I bought 2 expansions with , I currently have 32 (in CH6)
Its depressing I have 22 expansions I've unlocked and cant use.

Part of how I consistently topp'd the Spire was not overdo'n
it in tourn. 1600 is the magic #, and 2200-2400 was my usual.
I fight 1st 5 encounters in Spire then Cater the rest. I fight
P1-P5 in tourn, then Cater P6-P10/P11. I'm currently using my
guest race space as flex space for FAs. I've never had AWs or
produced T3 as reg production. I've never had to use 5-days
or troop instants. What saved me was when they changed
training so you could train troops simultaniously. My rule of
thumb on use in the Spire, is never use more than 50%
of what I will earn.

Because lvl-3 in Spire is so darn expensive compared to the
benefits you get, by backing off to say.... Silver Spire and 2k
in tournament, that should allow resources .. to progress with
research. I'd do Spire in "chunks". with a full MH (L9) I'd do
all of lvl1. When MH refilled I'd do 1/2 of lvl2 and the other
1/2 when the MH filled again. If I did do lvl3, then I'd just
do 4 encounters @ a time, then wait to refresh.

The forced migration hurt all of my cities by auto-completing
past chapter's optional researches. With a bigger SS now, its
harder to replace troops, but I manage..... kinda.... lolol

 

[SuNaya Dark]

Honestly you wont need MM spells, they are just a bonus. Monitoring your expansions and wonder levels will keep the costs down so you should be able to out produce your costs for some time. May also depend on how many provinces you plan to do. Knowing the optimal factory level for your race/chapter/boost is likely more beneficial. You can still use MM but you wont need them 24x7. If your parking for a long time, I would:

• Spire to earn coin/supply instants and magic res to supplement coin earning.
• Work towards 0 ws once my supply instants are enough
• 10 chest tourny fs for blueprints for artifacts for evolving buildings
  • Polar bear for shorter tourny times and it gives a supply instant at high levels
  • Panda bear for lots of T2 goods
  • Racoon is also great for goods
• Not build a barracks, better to use free troop buildings as they produce in better qty for much less space.
• Free troop buildings to access later tech units along with pop/culture benefits
• Look for nice goods producing event buildings to save space, especially T2 and T3 goods
• Look for evolving buildings. Often these are quite beneficial even at lowish levels
• Minimise expansions and wonders to keep costs down

The big unknown at that level is what is the ideal space. Can the production of 1 extra expansion out strip the increase in cost.

edit: Forgot to mention racoon evolving building

For Caterers the lack of Barracks might work IF they can find the Troops buildings in great supply. Maybe. I will attempt to have a second city in one of my Worlds that is strictly for FAs and Catering, just to see how that works. I'll take what you've said under advisement for how to stock it.

 

[SuNaya Dark]

@Smooper ,
The biggest hinderance to a cater only City is the dread'd
"placed land penalty" for Spire Catering. I followed Soggy's
example of having only the "best of" bldgs in my city. I made
sure my weekly production was balanced, as the Forum taught
me. I bought 2 expansions with , I currently have 32 (in CH6)
Its depressing I have 22 expansions I've unlocked and cant use.

Part of how I consistently topp'd the Spire was not overdo'n
it in tourn. 1600 is the magic #, and 2200-2400 was my usual.
I fight 1st 5 encounters in Spire then Cater the rest. I fight
P1-P5 in tourn, then Cater P6-P10/P11. I'm currently using my
guest race space as flex space for FAs. I've never had AWs or
produced T3 as reg production. I've never had to use 5-days
or troop instants. What saved me was when they changed
training so you could train troops simultaniously. My rule of
thumb on use in the Spire, is never use more than 50%
of what I will earn.

Because lvl-3 in Spire is so darn expensive compared to the
benefits you get, by backing off to say.... Silver Spire and 2k
in tournament, that should allow resources .. to progress with
research. I'd do Spire in "chunks". with a full MH (L9) I'd do
all of lvl1. When MH refilled I'd do 1/2 of lvl2 and the other
1/2 when the MH filled again. If I did do lvl3, then I'd just
do 4 encounters @ a time, then wait to refresh.

The forced migration hurt all of my cities by auto-completing
past chapter's optional researches. With a bigger SS now, its
harder to replace troops, but I manage..... kinda.... lolol

Oof. Yeah. That forced Migration took me from Ch4 to Ch6. NO choice. I HATED IT. I was doing so well building resources so I could quickly get through 5 and 6. However, there were some benefits. Like LESS EXPENSIVE Providence Scouting. So there was that trade-off. It's been so long, though, What I also didn't like was they moved me AWAY from my beneficial Neighbours. I had to reestablish many other new neighbours, but now I'm parked at the end of Ch6, and I'm doing well, just losing Troops by the dozens in fights. Working on a balance. I do NOT like "Convincing" in Spire. I tend to mis-judge what they want. And it costs me a LOT of built-up items, so I fight until I can't. I have never finished Level 2 of the Spire, so I have zero experience with Lvl 3. One day I may get there, but I need ROOM to place my Mountain Hall. Glad to know it will help with climbing the Spire. And I need room for my Twilight and Fire Phoenixes. Until then, thanks for the breakdown on what it takes to get there. It's appreciated.

 

[Mykan]

For Caterers the lack of Barracks might work IF they can find the Troops buildings in great supply. Maybe. I will attempt to have a second city in one of my Worlds that is strictly for FAs and Catering, just to see how that works. I'll take what you've said under advisement for how to stock it.

I have made a number of towns without barracks that were planned to be parked and worked very well. Of course that was to suit my goals and FA was not a priority. For small towns the free troop buildings tend to be pretty decent especially from event with troops that are way ahead in tech tree. Also note the above was written some time ago, pre-dates spire changes, and likely wonder changes. So be mindful of those 2 areas been different.

 

[Silly Bubbles]

Oof. Yeah. That forced Migration took me from Ch4 to Ch6. NO choice. I HATED IT. I was doing so well building resources so I could quickly get through 5 and 6. However, there were some benefits. Like LESS EXPENSIVE Providence Scouting. So there was that trade-off. It's been so long, though, What I also didn't like was they moved me AWAY from my beneficial Neighbours. I had to reestablish many other new neighbours, but now I'm parked at the end of Ch6, and I'm doing well, just losing Troops by the dozens in fights. Working on a balance. I do NOT like "Convincing" in Spire. I tend to mis-judge what they want. And it costs me a LOT of built-up items, so I fight until I can't. I have never finished Level 2 of the Spire, so I have zero experience with Lvl 3. One day I may get there, but I need ROOM to place my Mountain Hall. Glad to know it will help with climbing the Spire. And I need room for my Twilight and Fire Phoenixes. Until then, thanks for the breakdown on what it takes to get there. It's appreciated.

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