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If you remember @WolfSinger this was the reason I quit playing on Beta, I complained and basically was told to "Shut the Heck Up.." Cuss words omitted...
Not everyone knows to come to the forum to look. And, since they didn't know it was coming, why should they come to the forum at all? I only come to the forum when I have a question about something. I do not come to the forum just to read posts on a whim. A public announcement to the whole community would have been better. They give public announcements every time they do an upgrade to the system..
There is no reason to be snippy towards others who don't make it a habit to come to the forum. Most people, set their cities, do their visits (if they do them at all) and leave.
They knew they were going to cut these values, but did nothing till AFTER the adventure ended.
i sent msgs to customer support to remove the cities and that i was no longer participating in any events and buying any further diamonds as long INNO took the position that it could change products i bought and paid for.
All they had to do was the make the spell convert them from the old stats to the new ones. It's always better to give people choice. "We're leaving the existing buildings as a legacy. if you want to drag them into the future, applying the spell will change them from the legacy building to the new one and move them ahead a chapter." It would still have meant a loss to do so, but a lesser loss, and all at the same time, on the player's schedule. instead there is a large inconvenience with a nebulous reduction of that trouble in some future. Sorry, Mykan, I have a great deal of respect for you, but there is no way to polish this particular turd.To be fair that would still have got a ton of complaints from those with them who couldn't upgrade them. They did consider this option but decided the current update was the lesser of the two evils.
No, because that would not address the main issue with these buildings, which is that they are game-breakingly over power to begin with!All they had to do was the make the spell convert them from the old stats to the new ones. It's always better to give people choice. "We're leaving the existing buildings as a legacy. if you want to drag them into the future, applying the spell will change them from the legacy building to the new one and move them ahead a chapter." It would still have meant a loss to do so, but a lesser loss, and all at the same time, on the player's schedule. instead there is a large inconvenience with a nebulous reduction of that trouble in some future. Sorry, Mykan, I have a great deal of respect for you, but there is no way to polish this particular turd.
That building was first introduced during the 2016 Winter event, and was reused during this past year's winter event. It is still however a building from 2016, since that was when it was initially introduced.They said these were old event buildings from 2016 and early 2017 that would be changed, but that was not true for me. My Father Trees of Candy Cane I got January 2018 during the Three glacier giants event. The numbers changed from 1100 culture and 1100 pop. To 180 culture and 810 pop. . I made a ticket out for it and they just closed the ticket with out responding to my concern. I had choices during that event and I would not have chose these if that would have had the current numbers. I got 6 of them, so the impact was huge. Somehow they should make it right by giving me the option of 6 of the other items that were available.
That is patently ludicrous, becasue the game didn't break. Most people used them for two or three chapters and then removed them. A few people who move very slowly haven't used them for three chapters yet. As with all other things, a bunch of people placed them and then abandoned the game, so they are having no effect on the game at all. If a handful of people are clinging to them 3 or 4 chapters later, when they are no better than replacing them with something recent except for having been free, that is their choice. It is in no way breaking the game. Your rhetoric is misplaced.No, because that would not address the main issue with these buildings, which is that they are game-breakingly over power to begin with!
Oooooo, scary stuff. still useful in the third chapter after you won them. The world will no-doubt collapse under the weight of it.If you got a field of Winter Stars from O&G chapter at the time, and can still use them to provide 50% or more of your pop needs in bloody Halflings, then something is very, very wrong...
For two to three chapters. Which most people get through in under a year, but some take longer. They don't get any further in the game for playing slowly.What this does, is basically create a 2-tier game where the 'crusty old vets' get to play on easy mode, while anyone coming in new from Herds event and on, is now by comparison playing on 'hard mode'.
The fact that you keep using that term makes it clear you've never played a broken game. Elvenar is limping along quite fine, generating millions of dollars a year in revenue despite being broken.Inno is partly to blame for releasing these very obviously game-breaking buildings in the first place
Yes. Most of us are fully aware that this is a good, and necessary, change. How it was handled was awful.for the long term health of the game itself, this is a very big POSITIVE step forwards!
Wild rhetoric aside, I've never disagreed they needed to change things. My sole complaints have been the method of implementation and communication.Otherwise, we'll just inevitably see Elvenar slowly spiral into the cesspool that is FoE, where new players are ruthlessly stomped on by anyone who's been playing for 2-3+ years, and have cities filled with fields of OP event buildings & Lv50+ AW's.
I was not being snippy toward people who don't regularly come to the forum. I was being snippy toward someone who kept saying the same thing over & over & over. The point was that someone was saying that the only way to have gained prior information on this was to be on the beta server and/or go to the beta forum. It had been explained multiple times that it was also discussed on this forum. It just got very tiresome that the truth was being ignored in favor of complaining about something that was proven incorrect.
Frankly, I can just envision what the management team of the Elvenar division is up against. With only 7 worlds in the US, this division must be a smaller revenue stream. (I played Grepolis a couple of years ago, and there is a plethora of servers serving the US market.) The older of the Elvenar worlds are aging, and new features have to be issued for them to keep on meeting the 24% revenue increase that Inno enjoyed last year. (I used to work in a smaller software company...)
The rolled out feature of re-structuring event buildings does not seem to have had very much of an impact on the versed players. Nor on "freeloaders" like myself. Where it has struck negatively is for the casual spenders, that spends extra on the seasonal events. One of my fellows invested into 7 "Father trees of candy canes" and is now about -1200 in population and -4000 in culture. I do respect you very much for your work, Mykan, but what is the "lesser evil" of such game? What are they supposed to do?"
While a lot of the fault lies with Inno, especially for how they're handling the rebalancing, we have also accept some responsibility for this mess as players...This is a mess. Yes, we were warned. Yes, we get a free magic residence soon and a free restoration spell.
That doesn't make any of my members in all seven of my fellowships feel any better....
I've lost one long time member yesterday.
All the re-balancing over the last couple of years has taken its toll on a lot of players.
Not all players check the Forums (Beta or here). They also don't care about what's going on in Development land or what opinions there are on the Forums. They just want to play and enjoy their games.
It feels like a punishment to them each time something like this happens. They've spent a long time building up their towns...and then are later punished for trying to do their best.
...and no one dares to complain or express concern because they are ripped apart over here or they are ignored or talked down to when they send in a ticket...so we stick together as a fellowship and support each other there, as best we can.
What a fun game....