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Rise of the Phoenix Cult event discussion thread
- Thread starter helya
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Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
No clue. We do not get the outpost on Beta and on Live, it shows up most often on the 2nd day of events.
SoggyShorts
Mathematician par Excellence
I would be very surprised if it did, those little things are very popular $$$
OIM20
Well-Known Member
@helya - Query/Suggestion (for the future, since I doubt it can be implemented in an ongoing event without crashing it): Is it possible to have prizes on a graduating scale? For example, the T1 goods and troops are lovely for me, being only in chapter three and needing troops constantly due to my tendency to fight battles in the spire/tournament rather than cater (most of the time). I don't mind the supplies/coins drops I don't intend to use because I can turn them into spell fragments for MA crafting. KP is good for me because even if I can't use it in my own research atm, I can drop it into the AWs of those in my FS and reap the benefits of that later. (And those AW KP were really good in the FA for getting the wonder society badges - though I am saving the 20s for when I finally build my own AW.)
But, for people who are further along, can the prizes be altered so that they fit more with what that player would find beneficial? I know the code would be far more complex than something like
IF Ch<5 THEN
EC<15 = ED
EC[<, =, >] 15[...]25 = 2.4xSS (troops) <or> 633 (T1 goods) <or> 333 (T2 goods) [rotating value]
EC[<, =, >] 30[...]35 = (enchantment, rotating value)
EC>35 = (instant) <or> AWKP [rotating value]
AGP = AWKP [max] <or> KP [max] <or> (instant) [max]
IF Ch>5 AND Ch<10 THEN
EC<15 = ED
EC[<, =, >] 15[...]25 = 3.6xSS (troops) <or> 633 (T2 goods) <or> 333 (T3 goods) [rotating value]
EC[<, =, >] 30[...]35 = (enchantment <or> instant, rotating value, rotating quantity)
EC>35 = (instant) <or> EA
AGP = AWKP [max] <or> 50% gold needed to upgrade main hall <or> (instant) [max]
et cetera, as would be beneficial to the player per the chapter they're in. (Chapter values are examples. I would expect the numbers to be more tightly grouped as needed for when a change in good type would be most beneficial to the players of that chapter grouping.)
(Where:
AGP = alternating grand prize;
Ch = chapter player is in;
EA = Event Artifact;
EC = Event Chest Chance;
ED = Event Drop, in this case Sky Essence;
SS = squad strength)
This does, of course, assume that the player hasn't emptied their city of everything except their main hall, magic academy, barracks, and any other building that can't be stored with a teleport spell. (Several cities near me are like this.)
And I do think the number of troops/goods is odd. Why 633 for the amount of T1 goods? I haven't seen T2 goods, but I put it in there for good measure, in the event I just haven't gotten it yet. Is this a constant/percentage of something? I hope so b/c I don't think 633 of anything is going to be more than laughable at the level where someone would be getting goods that decay.
Why 2.4 times the number of troops it takes to make a
I don't think offering the artifact option in the chest is any different than offering the AWKP because the alternating grand prize is 20 AWKP where the AWKP offered in the chest is 2 x 10 AWKP. The only difference, of course, being that the 10 is an instant grant of a wonder society badge in the FA without going over. And since the EA can be used to craft older phoenix artifacts in the MA (unless I have that backwards?), I don't see why that shouldn't be offered.
For higher chaptered folks, though, perhaps the alternating grand prizes for filling in the feathers could be more in line with things that are craftable, like expiring buildings or 5 pet food, or 5 combining catalysts (though I'd love that prize myself, tbh) - something that acknowledges that they are at a higher level and have put more time (and likely money) into the game.
Also, a distinction should be made for the instant supplied as the alternating grand prize (and the ones in the chests, tbh) for those in higher chapters. 100% coin rain probably isn't the best prize for someone with sixteen level 30 residences who can likely reach their max gold limit - or at least half of it - in a day's play. They might prefer time boosters, or ten instantaneous troops, or a host of other types of instants I haven't encountered yet at my chapter three level of play.
But instituting any kind of graduating scale is dependent on whether the code is even able to be modified in this way at all. If it isn't possible to modify the code to provide better prizes on a graduating scale that would benefit all players, there might be some merit to the idea of changing the alternating grand prizes so that they are beneficial to those who are further along. Unless there's an inventory limit (and I haven't seen anyone mention one), then players at my level would be able to hold on to those prizes until they did become beneficial to us.
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Oh, dear.
Initially, I had similar issues following event activation, though I am on a brand spanking new laptop (manufactured for me this year to my personally preferred specifications since very few stores in my part of the US are carrying hardware and it was ordered directly from the manufacturer instead of paying retail markup). I had to install a round of updates for both the machine itself and the browser I'm using. I was rather hoping that was just an issue I encountered and not a possible indication of eliminating support for older software/hardware.
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helya
Beloved Ex-Team Member
The event prize amounts are already scaled based on chapters. I don't think we could ever get the Game developers to implement totally different prizes for different chapters but I could be wrong, so feel free to post your idea in the ideas and suggestions thread and if it's well received, I'd be happy to forward it.
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
Knowing Inno the way we do, I fully expect they read all the talk about saving up for day 11 and the Egg and decided to move it to day one and shift the first 10 prizes back by a day, just to mess with us. lol
But seriously, I do not see them removing one of the other daily prizes and giving us two chances at the Lava Egg.
Aritra
Well-Known Member
Fortunately, I had done my prep and was already prepared to get a good dose of currency early on.
I hadn't really cared to check the daily prize because I "knew" it wasn't something I wanted. Oops Glad I did.
After a lot of breaks in my day and a ton of boosters, I managed to squeeze out three (I lost count how many chests I had to go through to get them, too--two artifacts worth, though). *Sigh* Quite a first day. I plan to take it a bit easier after today, but we'll see....
ajqtrz
Chef - loquacious Old Dog
Do FM's give out mana at lower chapters? Mine give out seeds but can't remember if they ever switched from mana to seeds.
AJ
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
If you craft them in chapter 9 or 10, or upgrade one to chapter 9, yes they give mana.
Sprite1313
Well-Known Member
Pretty happy to see that show up in my MA
Deleted User - 849192770
Guest
10 cc's yikes i need to start saving
Darielle
Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
I won three of them on the first day, scraped together as much sky essence as I could with quests, but it was certainly worth it. I'm doing a happy dance. I can't wait for them to roll around again and will save up my sky essence for that. I've always sung the praises of the Festival Merchants, but wow, now I am selling my FMs for these guys, and it's certainly worth it.
Darielle
Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
They won't show up 2 chapters later if you have one in inventory.
Henroo
Oh Wise One
There is no guarantee Lava Eggs will come again. In the Beta event the Phoenix Chick was the day 1 prize. Lava Egg was day 11. For whatever reason, they moved Lava Egg to day 1 for us. Phoenix Chick showed up on day 2 instead. So unless they replace one of the other dailies with a 2nd Lava Egg or unless it shows up in the last few days of the Beta event, we are out of luck. I was not happy with the change. I had planned to save up my points and get as many Lava Eggs as possible. I had a wholesale overhaul of my mana producers in mind. Since it came on day 1 instead I was not able to win enough of them to do this.
Henroo
Oh Wise One
They give mana in Woodelves and Sorcerers and Dragons. Switch to seeds starting in Halflings. FMs were my best mana producers when I was doing Woodelves and S&D. But since you can't upgrade them without switching production to seeds, I need to win better, higher level mana producers to replace my S&D level FMs. They are now either 2 or 3 chapters behind, depending on the city.
Henroo
Oh Wise One
Is it just me or is the artifact conversion recipe a lot more expensive than last year? I seem to remember that during the Coldfire Phoenix event, it only took 2 or 3 CCs and 2 Coldfire Artifacts to make a Phoenix artifact. This time around it takes 2 Ashen Phoenix artifacts and 10 CCs.
hvariidh gwendrot
Well-Known Member
yes the conversion cc cost went up .. forgot to add there does seem to be two ways to convert though
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Sprite1313
Well-Known Member
Here's the other recipe. Interesting that the blueprint recipe gets you fewer VV than the one with CCs.