Ashrem
Oh Wise One
So 12 faculties times 4 levels times 6 plus 6 (base) is 294= the maximum number of apprentices we can generate per day, and if I need about 60000, so I'm looking at about 200 days minimum to finish S&D. Is that correct?
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Sorcerers and Dragons - Apprentices
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Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
I feel like something is missing there, as I do not remember it taking me over six months to complete that chapter. I wish there was some way to see when we opened the chests at the beginning of each chapter.
DeletedUser9601
Guest
Agreed that its not 6 months. Especially since there's a ramp-up to getting the max number of apprentices per day.
I'm not seeing the "by the numbers" chart for S&D on Elvengems though, so I can't point my finger on exactly where the confusion lies.
I'm not seeing the "by the numbers" chart for S&D on Elvengems though, so I can't point my finger on exactly where the confusion lies.
Ashrem
Oh Wise One
@SoggyShorts what am I missing? If I can only produce 294 apprentices a day max, how can I get out of S&D in under six months?
Pheryll
Set Designer
The 60000 number is way off. The research tree requires only 15633 of a double discipline. Apprentices are only consumed by giving them a discipline. They are not used to upgrade buildings. With the portal at level 4 (1.6 multiplier) you will be slightly better than exchanging one apprentice for a discipline, and exchanging a single discipline for a double discipline; that is you will end up with slightly more double discipline graduates than the apprentices that you spent. So upgrading buildings should be a priority.
Ashrem
Oh Wise One
I'm using Mykan's guest race resources spreadsheet. Not sure what the issue is, but 60k is what it indicated. @Mykan am I missing something?
Pheryll
Set Designer
Mykan has pretty much identical numbers for the double discipline required. The problem is Mykan is doubling the number of single disciplines needed for double, and apprentices needed for single, so that the final number comes out at a x4. With the portal fully upgraded, we are looking at times one multipliers for a result of x1. With the portal at level 1 the multiplier is x1.6 each for a total outcome of x2.56. I think Mykan rounded the x1.6 to x2 and did not account for the portal upgrades improving the multiplier.
Pheryll
Set Designer
Yeah, divide by four.
Mykan
Oh Wise One
I haven't checked or updated that document for a long time. I have been meaning to update it but haven't had the timely lately. If I do look at it I can recheck the S&D section
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
I went back through my city and looked at the values of event buildings from the past 7 or 8 months, to see which chapter I was in when I won them, and came up with a rough number of 4 months, give or take a week, for me to do all of S&D. I upgraded the square to level 4 as quickly as I could and only built 3 of each school, upgrading them all to level 4. If I could have built 4 of each, I would have finished probably up to a month quicker, so maybe 3 months optimally to do the chapter. This was also without spending diamonds during the chapter and having little or none or the time reduction instants to speed things up.
kctanzen
Well-Known Member
I was S&D flagged on Sept 26, and I tend to move rather deliberately.
Im about 2 weeks or so from getting all the graduates I need for the wonder tech now.
If I had built / upgraded the full campus earlier, I might have shaved 3 weeks or so off, but can't see how it would have been much faster than that.
I have not used any portal profits or diamonds to speed things up -- slower is better for me because slower = more KP into wonders!!
Im about 2 weeks or so from getting all the graduates I need for the wonder tech now.
If I had built / upgraded the full campus earlier, I might have shaved 3 weeks or so off, but can't see how it would have been much faster than that.
I have not used any portal profits or diamonds to speed things up -- slower is better for me because slower = more KP into wonders!!
Mykan
Oh Wise One
This is exactly it. I hadn't looked at it for so long I had forgotten that the document does not include boosts, portal or wonder.