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Spell Fragments in the Spire

ajqtrz

Chef - loquacious Old Dog
Has the percentages changed? This is what it looked like a bunch of months ago when I last took measure:
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Notes:
1C: One crystal. 2C: Two Crystal/midboss. 3C: Three crystal/floorboss.
XX%MC : Percent chance of a mystery chest

Floor 1 Area 1:
1C 10%MC: 20% (??) supply, 20% 2CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: 15% (10%)portal, 30% 15 Diamonds, 55% Teleport
Floor 1 Area 2:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: 5% artifact, 10% (20%)supply, 20% 20 Diamonds, 65% 5x2h boost
Floor 1 Area 3:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: 5% artifact, 10% (20%)coins, 30% 20 Diamonds, 55% 2000 frags
Floor 1 Area 4:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
3C 30%MC: 10% DArmorer, 10% Artifact, 10% MResidence, 30% (10%)portal, 40% 50 Diamonds

Floor 2 Area 1:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: 15% (10%)portal, 30% 15 diamonds, 55% Teleport
Floor 2 Area 2:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: [UV] 5% artifact, 10% (20%)supply, 20% 20 Diamonds, 65% 5x2h boost
Floor 2 Area 3:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: 5% artifact, 10% (20%)coins, 30% 20 Diamonds, 55% 2000 frags
Floor 2 Area 4:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
3C 30%MC: 5% MWorkshop, 10% Artifact, 10% TStation, 30% (10%)portal, 45% (75?) Diamonds

Floor 3 Area 1:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: 15% (10%)portal, 30% 15 diamonds, 55% Teleport
Floor 3 Area 2:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: 5% artifact, 10% (20%)supply, 20% 20 Diamonds, 65% 5x2h boost
Floor 3 Area 3:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
2C 20%MC: 5% artifact, 10% (20%)coins, 30% 20 Diamonds, 55% 5 sips
Floor 3 Area 4:
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)supply, 20% 3CC, 60% 500 frags
1C 10%MC: 25% 2h boost, 35% 5h boost, 40% 1000 frags
1C 10%MC: 20% (15%)coins, 20% 1250 frags, 60% 3x1h boost
3C 30%MC: 5% Artifact, 10% Genie, 20% DArmorer, 20% (25%)portal, 45% 125 diamonds

Other chests:
Purple MC: 10% Genie, 30% (50%)portal, 30% 3 Teleports, 30% artifact
Gold MC:   10% Artifact, 20% DArmorer, 20% (50%)portal, 50% 2x8h boost
Blue MC  : 10% (20%)supply, 10% (20%)coins, 15% (15%)portal, 25% 3CC, 40% 3x5h boost

Other chest notes on cities below chapter 6:
Floor 2 Area 4: Replace 10% Portal with 50% Supply
Other chests not personally confirmed.

Thanks, Zoof. Now all we need is the current chart to compare. Anybody want to do that work?

AJ
 

Darielle

Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
As someone limited to 1 moonstone library, I'm happy to see more spell frags, even in a boss chest. What I'm less keen on are the other possible changes:
It's only the 2nd and 3rd bosses gaining spell frags, at the cost of a reduction in the chance of diamonds, assuming it follows the rebalance on Beta. Beta also has an unannounced rebalance of diamonds in some of the other chests. You can see the changes, and their calculated impact, here.

The ones who need the spell frags the most are precisely the same people who don't usually make it to the second and third boss. The ones who consistently get those boss chests are more likely to have enough spell frags already.
 

crackie

Chef, Scroll-Keeper, Buddy's #1 Fan
I'm with @Alram on the Spell Frag issue. My baby city has been doing full Spire since chap 3. I'm in chap 5 now. The MA is mostly idle because I never have enough relics or Spell Frags to craft things. Excavation event is a horrible one to get daily exclusives on so not many buildings to frag from this month either.
 

MaidenFair

Chef - Head Philologist
@Darielle
Most of the people who have enough spell fragments are the people with multiple moonstone sets. Please take a moment to remind all of us, how many spell fragments do you get daily just from your moonstone village? :cool:
I know you said most, but just for reference, I joined after the Library had been removed from the Spire to the MA, so I only have one of each building. I’ve got 191K spell fragments in one city (ch. 12) and 401K in the other (entered ch. 8 this morning). I’d really prefer a chance at diamonds over spell fragments. :)
 

Henroo

Oh Wise One
They just announced that they would phase in spell fragments as a reward in the three boss chests in the spire. I'm not sure how well that's going to go down with most people. :eek:
I wonder if they are just adding them? Or if they are replacing something with spell fragments? If this is the case, hopefully the tiny Portal Profit spells the bosses give will be what gets replaced!
 

samidodamage

Buddy Fan Club member
Or if they are replacing something with spell fragments?
From the spoiler in this post,** looks like it will reduce diamond rewards?

**Anyone else having a problem with this link? It takes me to a few posts above the one I copied the link address for that has the beta info in a spoiler. I've redone it several times, and am sure I did it correctly, but obviously not...
 

samidodamage

Buddy Fan Club member
@Alram
That's really weird. It's supposed to be a link to the last post on page 1 of this thread (post by @Lady Dastardly). Then, you do have to click the 'Spoiler: Beta rebalance button to see the summary of the implementation on beta. And, now it's taking me there. :confused:
Before it was taking me to one of Darielle's posts a few entries above Lady's post and then I had to scroll down.
No more weird than all the other weirdness around here these days, lol!
 

Lakarakka

New Member
  • Spell fragments have been added to the Boss Chests on the Spire of Eternity
hooray. not that i don't enjoy collecting spell fragments, but is this really something to be dangled? i think spell frags should be high % on the first chest or two of each level, and the boss chests should always hold something more valuable than fragments. unless you're talkin a crap load of them
 

Darielle

Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
@Darielle
Most of the people who have enough spell fragments are the people with multiple moonstone sets. Please take a moment to remind all of us, how many spell fragments do you get daily just from your moonstone village? :cool:
I get 1800 per day from my moonstone village, and yes, I'm glad I have them. But I still hold that most of the people who need spell frags are not the ones who go consistently to the top of the tower. My most desperate need for spell frags is on a second ID that rarely goes to the top. It can't afford the goods and it's too weak to fight, so that one will not benefit from spell frags in the big boss chest.
I know you said most, but just for reference, I joined after the Library had been removed from the Spire to the MA, so I only have one of each building. I’ve got 191K spell fragments in one city (ch. 12) and 401K in the other (entered ch. 8 this morning). I’d really prefer a chance at diamonds over spell fragments. :)

I'd rather have diamonds too! If you have enough diamonds you can buy the dang items in the MA. You don't need the spell frags.


I wonder if they are just adding them? Or if they are replacing something with spell fragments? If this is the case, hopefully the tiny Portal Profit spells the bosses give will be what gets replaced!

Whenever they replace something, they never replace the cheapest thing ... it's usually the more expensive one. :(


As much as I see newer players jumping for joy, they should remember that there is going to come a time when they'll wish it hadn't changed. Once you have enough spell frags, you really don't want a whole lot more. It gets to be like broken shards (not the ones you can trade for kp).
 

Alram

Flippers just flip
I get 1800 per day from my moonstone village, and yes, I'm glad I have them. But I still hold that most of the people who need spell frags are not the ones who go consistently to the top of the tower.
1800 frags per day from the main library but don't forget the endless scroll bldgs. That is about 2325 spell frags for you per day vs 525 per day for players with only one library set. I can certainly see why you have no interest in more spell fragment prizes.
 
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