DeletedUser16929
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ya why don't you just delete this too
the spire is annoying and not as random as some would think
do you think?
the spire is annoying and not as random as some would think
do you think?
Well, I got to the third level and can't go on, the enemy is much too strong and is impossible with the second wave. O did I mention I fight all tournaments and negotiate only the first and second since its cheaper? Guess not, now you know. Sadly I too am done with the spiral, besides I have enough spell fragments to last me a year. Too much trouble for combining catalysts.I remember looking over its initial release on beta and thinking that tournaments are a far better use of my time and resources. The way I saw it, the Spire cost more goods, was harder if not outright impossible to battle through thanks to the multiple waves, and had overall worse rewards. Unless things have since been massively adjusted, I expect that to still be the case. and will probably be passing this feature over.
Of course, I will still be looking at this first live version to see if all of this is still true.
Some weeks it'll be easier to fight than others
Being 3 months on with the Spire now, I have to say that it's actually more like the tournaments than I initially thought in that my participation varies from week to week. It's less predictable than the set tournament schedule, but depending on what mix of units the game decides to put in my way, I've seen myself pushing into level 3 on some weeks and not doing anything beyond level 1 on others. Kinda like how I do barely anything during the scrolls tournament but I'll clear 50+ provinces during a steel tournament because of the different battle conditions.
Taken over a 9-week period like the tournament schedule, I'd say the Spire is relatively fairly balanced. Some weeks it'll be easier to fight than others, and I think that's ok. I think squad sizes are still way too big though. The first 3 encounters in level 1 are fine, but I don't understand why there's a MASSIVE jump starting with the 4th encounter and from there on it's a fairly gradual increase. It's most likely far too late to even be talking about it anymore, but I'd still like to see that smoothed out a bit.
The way I see it, deep tournaments are for people who mostly fight, with very occasional catering for very unfavorable matchups (don't think anyone can afford extensive catering later on).On the whole I do agree there is a reasonable level of balance for maps 1 and 2. I still think map 3 needs tweaking either in terms of lowering cost or increasing rewards to match the cost. I just find the cost verse benefit of map 3 far to disparate to even consider wasting resources/troops on getting more of something I already have in excess. Will reassess after beta changes come through...
The way I see it, deep tournaments are for people who mostly fight, with very occasional catering for very unfavorable matchups (don't think anyone can afford extensive catering later on).
Deep Spire is the opposite - mostly catering, with occasional fighting with very favorable matchups. Advanced cities can do both as resources are mostly complementary (where else are you going to dump your excess goods production)?
You are so correct. I only play on the first few chests. It uses too much resources and I always end up loosing once I go thru the first gate. I don't care to play as it is too hard and you lose so much.Cool, but it still uses troops, supplies, and goods that people use generally for tournaments. It makes rebalancing how squad size affects those goods in tournaments an even more pressing issue.
The Spire CHEATS !! I can not count the times I will choose to fight and the choices do not tell me it is a Two Wave force I am fighting . How am I suppose to choose my forces when the game doesn't always tell me I am to face a 2 wave assault ? So bang , I've wasted troops and have to go back and use goods .
And on the topic of goods , putting Divine seeds and Mana demands is ludicrous . The seeds are already hard enough to accumulate and the demand on them is so great we can't keep up .
All in all the spire is designed to get us to buy diamonds and the rewards are not equal to the demands . It has some great rewards , but by God expect to open the heavens and pour forth the riches thereof .
I think you are not paying attention. It always indicates fights correctly to me, 100% of the time. I don't always remember to pay attention, but that's a different problem. PEBKAC.I can not count the times I will choose to fight and the choices do not tell me it is a Two Wave force I am fighting
The Spire CHEATS !! I can not count the times I will choose to fight and the choices do not tell me it is a Two Wave force I am fighting . How am I suppose to choose my forces when the game doesn't always tell me I am to face a 2 wave assault ? So bang , I've wasted troops and have to go back and use goods .
And on the topic of goods , putting Divine seeds and Mana demands is ludicrous . The seeds are already hard enough to accumulate and the demand on them is so great we can't keep up .
All in all the spire is designed to get us to buy diamonds and the rewards are not equal to the demands . It has some great rewards , but by God expect to open the heavens and pour forth the riches thereof .
The Spire is NOT like tournaments where everybody gets the top rewards achieved by the fellowship. When the fellowship reaches a certain level that just unlocks the prizes for those who actually reach that level. You personally would have had to complete the entire 2nd level to get the 50 diamonds. Because you opened only 3 gates you received the prize chests associated with the first 3 gates which is considerably less than if you had completed 2 levels or 8 gates.So wit the last Spire I didn’t seem to get all the rewards, my fellowship did extremely well, and the fellowship score was way past the first Gateway, I myself made it to the first Gateway but was unable to beat the guard at the door, even though I tried several times, I ran out of resources and squads.
And I didn’t get the 50 diamonds I normally get with the fellowship score!!!! Why not. The rewards I received were very little compared to previous Spires.
How does one modify their city to make the Spire work?When modifying your city to make it work, the spire could be an excellent way to aquire free diamonds.