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Spire squad size calc - we need your data!

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qaccy

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Hm, are you sure? Elevenstats reports 142 (unless you unlocked several in the last day or so)?

I didn't count the 6 expansions we start with since I figure those would be baseline for everybody. Buuuut it also turns out I still have one expansion available from Chapter 15 that I never finished researching, so my actual total is 136 anyway (or 142, if you count the starting space).

Good news I suppose is that I can unlock an expansion rather sooner than I thought! I just have to rebuild the portal...
 

kctanzen

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Looks like I have 126 expansions, if I counted correctly from the last Architect dump I could get -- I haven't had a new expansion for a while so that's probably spot on at any rate.
 
Maybe these fixed variables will shake something loose

A-World 8 / 17 / 165 / 25 / 645 / 66 => 454 / 202
W-World 8 / 17 / 165 / 24 / 603 / 66 => 429 / 191
F-World 8 / 17 / 165 / 24 / 657 / 66 => 422 / 188
K-World 8 / 17 / 165 / 26 / 603 / 66 => 447 / 199
E-World 8 / 17 / 165 / 24 / 645 / 66 => 458 / 204
S-World 8 / 17 / 165 / 23 / 603 / 66 => 412 / 183
 

qaccy

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Alright, I unlocked that expansion I was missing in the research tree. I haven't placed it yet though, I'm going to wait and see if just having it researched adds anything to next week's Spire before I place it and see what the effect is on the Spire following that one.
 

Rusty01

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Great work Max! The obvious question for me is how own squad size compares to enemy squad size and are there significant differences. Do increased AW levels and expansions result in more difficult spire battles (I presume enemy squad size increases as well and if so, at the same rate or greater)? Look forward to continued analysis!
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Oh Wise One
Great work Max! The obvious question for me is how own squad size compares to enemy squad size and are there significant differences. Do increased AW levels and expansions result in more difficult spire battles (I presume enemy squad size increases as well and if so, at the same rate or greater)? Look forward to continued analysis!

If your starting Spire Squad Size goes up, then the enemy one will definitely increase too, usually by almost half your increase. What I have not seen yet is if there is anything that will only increase yours or only increase the enemy, other than maybe a rounding error-type thing.
 

Deleted User - 3932582

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The obvious question for me is how own squad size compares to enemy squad size and are there significant differences. Do increased AW levels and expansions result in more difficult spire battles (I presume enemy squad size increases as well and if so, at the same rate or greater)? Look forward to continued analysis!
Well, that's an easy question ;) Enemy squad sizes always have the same ratio to your own squad sizes for a particular encounter , just like your own squad size progression for later encounters is completely determined by your own squad size at the first encounter. The same goes for catering costs. That's what I meant when I said that everything in the Spire can be represented by a single number - e.g. your own squad size at encounter 1. Everything else will always be fixed with respect to that.

Basically, Spire always has the same difficulty (outside of different troop match ups) no matter what your level is. It is the amount of losses that would be different - similar to how regular squad size impacts tournaments.

I'll post information on how squad sizes are distributed throughout the Spire some time later.
 

Deleted User - 4646370

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15/35/423/172/3699/109 => 2794/1241 [FR3 - 2020-04-05]
7/19/150/26/429/59 => 392/175 [FR4 - 2020-04-05]

Tech status : on FR3 I ended tech tree, but I skipped optional squad size upgrades in chapters 13 and after, and 3 other optional researches in chapter 15 (all except Advanced Wisdom Chest)
On FR4 I'm ending chapter 7, I still have to do 4 techs before advanced scouts. I skipped all optional squad size upgrades except the first two ones (SSU 3 and 5 in chapters 1 and 2), and also city expansions 22, 27, 28 and 29 (I will research them when I'll get stuck on tech tree in chapter 8.) I also didn't research SSU 16, which only unlocks expansion 22.
Other remarks : on FR3 i have Simia currently upgrading and 3 expansions in inventory. On FR4 I have 2 expansions in inventory.
 
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Crow Last Elf

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6/15/142/15/369/56=>244/109 [2020-03-29]
6/15/144/15/369/57=>253/113 [2020-04-05]

For complete tracking, I have completed 19 techs = [1+4+4+5+3(CF, AG,SA)+2(EA, CE24)] as of [2020-04-05]
 

michmarc

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12 / 27 / 334 / 86 / 1545 / 101 => 1298 / 577 (3/22/2020)
12 / 27 / 347 / 91 / 1665 / 103 => 1401 / 623 (4/ 5/2020)

I forgot to do last week, and the total expansion for two weeks ago is a best guess since I didn't realize at the time you wanted that recorded.
 
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