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Feedback Winter Magic 2024

TimeMachine

Well-Known Member
Do you have Environmental Effects on or off in the settings?
I didn't change settings for about 2 years but suddenly it started to snow again in Elvenar, experiencing snow on beta server at the moment will switch back to live in a moment.

Edit: Snow is back on live too! So most likely it was just a glitch due to my personal network-issues.
 
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iamthouth

Tetris Master
US6 Sinya Arda leagues with one day left.
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HenryGoodBoy

New Member
What happens in 4 hours?
Most important question: Do the tiles remain, (with the 3x one still visible) or will a full shuffle take place, with all tiles covered and shuffled?).
Other questions: With the event ending in 14 hours, we still get a daily prize of 30 keys right? I've completed all quests, and gotten the goddess of wishes prize, so I expect there will be no new quest for me to get any more keys aside from the few keys that pop up in citizen environs. Am I right about that?
So... if you look at my screenshot, I am one tile away from being able to double the 3x gift. So before event ends, I get one 3x gift undoubled, 1 or two extra gifts for new tiles. So I can add 5, 6 tiles to my total so far of 251 gifts, bringing me slightly short of the 260 gifts needed for grand prize of an artifact (the 4th last one needed for the winter mag
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ic set)
I'm a new player, and I thought that those of us who chose not to pay money for diamonds or packs could if we assidously solved every chest and gathered keys dropped in city environs (like I have) could finish with a full winter set. I thought the grand prizes were what was available to us who did not pay money. Now it looks to me that the game was designed to make grand prizes at level 260 and above unavailable to us, and our winter magic sets will be short one final fourth artifact. Am I correct, or am I missing some trick to get the last little bit done?
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TimeMachine

Well-Known Member
What happens in 4 hours? With the event ending in 14 hours, we still get a daily prize of 30 keys right?
I am not really sure about it but usually there should be one last daily prize at midnight (GMT+1).
I've completed all quests, and gotten the goddess of wishes prize, so I expect there will be no new quest for me to get any more keys aside from the few keys that pop up in citizen environs. Am I right about that?
Yes you are right there will be no further quests coming up, the events usually end with the goddess of wishes and the questgiver says goodbye and disapears.

I thought the grand prizes were what was available to us who did not pay money. Now it looks to me that the game was designed to make grand prizes at level 260 and above unavailable to us, and our winter magic sets will be short one final fourth artifact. Am I correct, or am I missing some trick to get the last little bit done?
I've several cities this time who arrived a few points short of 220 points but I must admit that I skipped several event days completely because some Digital-Detox seemed more comfortable to me. :)

Anyway I guess you are right, it is of course always a question of luck but I would say that it is obvious that InnoGames is trying to "sell" those "Happy Event Ends", i would like to say, "stronger" than before.

You will be able to catch this missing artifact by completing the upcoming FA. ;)
 

HenryGoodBoy

New Member
Thanks for your reply, I edited my question before a refresh showed me you had already replied. When we get that last daily prize at midnight, will all my tiles get covered over again?
 

Enevhar Aldarion

Oh Wise One
Thanks for your reply, I edited my question before a refresh showed me you had already replied. When we get that last daily prize at midnight, will all my tiles get covered over again?

The board will refresh at the regular time of 7pm Eastern, and then you will get another free 30 at Midnight Eastern. So fi you want that 3-point present, you need to collect it before the daily refresh.
 

Dominionofgod

Thinker of Ideas
I accidentally posted this in the spire thread. Only now just noticed...

seriously????
Im not sure if this is just random bad luck (or poor planning) or Inno doing this on purpose. Sadly.. i can perfectly believe they did it on purpose.
The very last quest. And they add a 'scout' option? For much of the player base, scouting will take longer then the event has left!
And a solve world map/spire/tourney... which should be good... but it starts right after tourney ends and spire is gone. Tourney wont start until event ends. Spire wont start until the last few hours of quests when many ppl might not be able to. - This this is effectively 'a solve world map encounter' only quest.

Over all, this is a horrible last day quest.
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Edit: I will add, that had this quest shown up a few days ago, id have been fine with it. maybe even applauded it given innos history of bad quests. They added a legit OR option for the problematic scout quest. And the solve enc quest was the combine version, which is always should be. - So in itself, it would have been a small victory. .... But the timing of it as the LAST quest with out tourney as an option and limited spire at best/none at worst for some... and a scout quest when the event has less time left then some players scout time.... kinda ruins it.
To reiterate; im not saying its impossible; im saying its a horrible quest to have on the last day of event that falls when spire and tourney arnt available. If it had been a few days earlier, id would be fine. But timing matters.
 

Dominionofgod

Thinker of Ideas
The board will refresh at the regular time of 7pm Eastern, and then you will get another free 30 at Midnight Eastern. So fi you want that 3-point present, you need to collect it before the daily refresh.
I love how even that system found a way to mock me..

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This was last night as i was cashing it. To my utter amazement, i landed on a fresh new board at the same time my magnifying glass was ready. Used it. Got BOTH presents!!! 0.0 Iv never seen that happen before! Woooooo!!!! .... Granted, its not like i could x2 both of them. But i would at least be able to x2 one of them when i reached 17.

So since i could x2 only one, i grabbed one of the presents (thankfully), and proceeded to unlock others. The moment i reached 17/17 and could x2 the present.... out of keys!! Of course'
Im scrounging around the city edges hoping to get to 25 before the board refreshes. I reached 23 of 25 keys needed by the refresh mark. Board refreshes, and i lose the x2 on the present. -_-

So i started the board with both presents revealed. Ended without x2'ing either of em...

On the semi plus side.. I just finished the last quest and got the keys as well as those around the city. And on the next board, i used magnifying glass and it showed the #3 present! I was able to use my last keys (aside form midnight gift) and grab that which put me at 261/260 for getting the last artifact. - Without that i would have landed at 259/260 with the only chance of getting it being that midnight bonus.

So that 24 hours of the board was a roller coaster! Even if someone was sitting behind the board purposely selecting what i get... you couldnt mess with me any better then that. It was perfect. So perfect i kinda wish it was an inno person doing that on purpose; it was that well done. Id even have to congratulate him on it lol.
(in such a scenario, had they left me at 259/260 id just have been infuriated. [And iv had it happen before, so i know.] So that really shows the line between infuriated and hilarious.)


.. on the sadder side, i dont see any way my second city will reach 260.
Edit: Apparently i stand corrected. They expanded on a perfect job of messin with me. - I knew my second city wouldnt get to the last artifact. Did the math and it wasnt going to happen. But for some reason, not sure why, the new next screen showed 2 different presents valued 2 each. But when the board started, that wasnt was was there. Which is odd. I got enough for my 2x and hadnt hit any presents yet. But new the odds still were not in my favor of getting one. But much to my surprise... i 2x on a present! Not only that, but a value 4 present! 4x2=8! Was incredible to see. I wasnt expecting that. That actually gets me much closer to the 260 mark for the last artifact.
But alas... it was not ment to be. Second city ends at 258/260 >< Two damn points away from 260. I have 20 keys left. 30 more keys would have hit 260.
They almost got my hopes up there for a second. Almost well played. But remember what i said earlier about coming up short being infatuating? >< I think the over all notion of anyone completing the entire event and cashing in for grand prize and still walking away without the whole prize is horrible. Do all the work. Dont get the reward. And its not like its a rare random bad luck. Its the second or third times its happened to me alone; coming up a single point or two short after doing everything. The events/currency are programed to be that close. I would suspect for the reason of trying to get someone that close and lacking so they would buy some keys. And thats the kind of bs mentality that i have no respect or tolerance for. So because of things like that, i not only wont buy keys for this, but i wont buy anything period. A purchase is supposed to show support, not done because we got screwed over.

On an ending note: there is 1h left in event. Currently, silver league, which is 'top 5%' stands at 260+ (260 being the last artifact as well.)
So that means only 5% of the players actually made it to getting the last artifact. Which is a pretty sad statistic. Even more sad; this is pretty common. Most events with league prizes usually end with silver league being around the same number as the last artifact reward. So only 5% actually getting a full prize is fairly common.
So either the majority of the player base cant, or wont, play or finish the events. Or you just have soooooo many dead cities that it skews the numbers. Or both. Which ever one it is.. is a problem that needs addressed; as does this purposely programming crap of making cash ins hang right on the line for the main prize.
 
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Enevhar Aldarion

Oh Wise One
This event always makes me wonder who uses the reshuffle for 45 keys? Unless you only want daily prizes and completely ignore the rest, I think it's a horrible deal.

If it is early in the event and I get the daily prize and the extra present prizes quickly, I will spend the 45 to get a fresh board, rather than waste stuff for prizes I don't want.
 

TimeMachine

Well-Known Member
If it is early in the event and I get the daily prize and the extra present prizes quickly, I will spend the 45 to get a fresh board, rather than waste stuff for prizes I don't want.
True! Depending on how huch postal boxes are already opened, this can of course be the better deal, in comparison to click them all just in order to get a fresh board!
 

Pheryll

Set Designer
This event always makes me wonder who uses the reshuffle for 45 keys? Unless you only want daily prizes and completely ignore the rest, I think it's a horrible deal.
If you value multiple copies of a daily prize more than the chief prize of the event, then resetting the board often to get the daily prize is a great strategy. Winter events often have a good high population building. This year the best one was the glacier garden (5x3). I managed to snag 18 of them on the day it was offered, which is more than enough to replace the last winter's high population event buildings.
 

Silly Bubbles

I only POP the bad ones
I'm a new player, and I thought that those of us who chose not to pay money for diamonds or packs could if we assidously solved every chest and gathered keys dropped in city environs (like I have) could finish with a full winter set. I thought the grand prizes were what was available to us who did not pay money. Now it looks to me that the game was designed to make grand prizes at level 260 and above unavailable to us, and our winter magic sets will be short one final fourth artifact. Am I correct, or am I missing some trick to get the last little bit done?

Completing all quests doesn't guarantee the main prize. You need a good strategy to get it and even then there's an element of luck. You can still get the missing buildings/artifacts later in Fellowship Adventure. For example, in this event format, a good strategy to get the main prize is to try to collect all bonus gifts in a board and then stop and wait for a new board.
 

Dominionofgod

Thinker of Ideas
Getting the grand prize back in the day used to not be an issue if you completed everything. But every event it seemed they got tweeked to make it a little harder. Now were at the point where you might get the grand prize, or you might not; even with that being the goal and cashing in accordingly. It seems liek they adjusted it to try and make ppl come up jsut a hair short to get them angry and buy diamonds to finish it off. - I on the other hand get angry at inno for doing that, and refuse to buy diamonds and refuse to support such behavior. So its the opposite effect for me.
 

Silly Bubbles

I only POP the bad ones
All I remember that it used to be harder and how hard it was to get Great Auction and that only few players managed to get it. The quests were impossible to do without planning and even then it was hard to time it all. Anyways, anyone who really wants the main prize can get it without paying cash for it.
 
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