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I'm about to head into Woodelves, and a few fellowship members told me about a way to do the chapter, which would save me time, resources and kp, at the cost of 345% portal profits.
I couldn't find anything about this (maybe I'm just bad at researching), so I decided to run the numbers myself. Here's what I came up with, and it seems like a really good way to do it in my opinion. Any feedback is appreciated, and I'll look forward to updating it with my experiences once I've completed the chapter, which will probably be in ~5 weeks.
Here's the guide from the blind who's trying to lead both the blind and the seeing:
Woodelves: The easy way
There’s a way to do the Woodelves chapter that can save you a lot of resources, time and space for this chapter's settlement buildings, if you have portal profits to spend.
For this to work, you’ll need at minimum 340% profits.
And if you’re willing to spend that, you can reap yourself a neat reward of saving these precious resources:
192 Knowledge points, 680.000 supplies, 217.500 mana, 31.000 tier 2 goods, 27.000 tier 3 goods.
The savings come from not researching the 3 grafting sites
Not to mention all the time and resources you’d spend on building the settlement up. Nice huh?
This is possible because the settlement is introduced around halfway through the chapter, and so the amount of research that requires their goods are fewer than usual, and they have 3 capped goods. As an example, in orcs it would cost you around 600-700% profits if you were mad enough to do something like this.
Showtime! How does it work?
After building your Forest Glade and building 1-5 Forest Fabrications, you’ll use profits to get the upgrade materials you’ll need to get your portal to level 4.
From level 1 to 2, use a 15% profit.
From level 2 to 3, use a 20% profit.
From level 3 to 4 you have 2 options: Either 30% profit or 25% profit + 26 diamonds on crafting one craft of wood ghosts in your Forest Fabrication.
Once your portal is level 4, you use profits whenever you need the upgrade materials to progress through the chapter.
Whether you build 1 or 5 Forest Fabrications depends entirely on how fast you want to get to level 4 as well as your coin and supply situation.
Each craft costs 1090 mana.
With 1, you’d spend at least 11,6 days crafting them (if you were able to craft non-stop)
With 5, you’d spend 2,3 days, which is less than it takes to upgrade the portal. (so you’d probably be using boosters when upgrading with 5)
How many profits are enough?
The researches can be done with no waste, so 340 or 345% is enough.
Thoughts after doing it
I couldn't imagine not doing it like this! It's super easy, and I can't imagine how long the chapter would be if I had to spend all the mana and resources it would take to build and upgrade the guest race buildings.
The main thing slowing you down will be mana, like people mentioned in the comments as well. I had ~65k mana per day, and only experienced a few moments of being paused from doing research.
Keep your eye out for festival merchants and mana sawmills, they're a lot better than weeping willows.
For those interested in the numbers math behind it, here’s a (hopefully not too messy) spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18VLF0WinCSyMwDiv32MyH89X3Kdhzzp-8M_NyXjkoNo/edit?usp=sharing
I couldn't find anything about this (maybe I'm just bad at researching), so I decided to run the numbers myself. Here's what I came up with, and it seems like a really good way to do it in my opinion. Any feedback is appreciated, and I'll look forward to updating it with my experiences once I've completed the chapter, which will probably be in ~5 weeks.
Here's the guide from the blind who's trying to lead both the blind and the seeing:
Woodelves: The easy way
There’s a way to do the Woodelves chapter that can save you a lot of resources, time and space for this chapter's settlement buildings, if you have portal profits to spend.
For this to work, you’ll need at minimum 340% profits.
And if you’re willing to spend that, you can reap yourself a neat reward of saving these precious resources:
192 Knowledge points, 680.000 supplies, 217.500 mana, 31.000 tier 2 goods, 27.000 tier 3 goods.
The savings come from not researching the 3 grafting sites
Not to mention all the time and resources you’d spend on building the settlement up. Nice huh?
This is possible because the settlement is introduced around halfway through the chapter, and so the amount of research that requires their goods are fewer than usual, and they have 3 capped goods. As an example, in orcs it would cost you around 600-700% profits if you were mad enough to do something like this.
Showtime! How does it work?
After building your Forest Glade and building 1-5 Forest Fabrications, you’ll use profits to get the upgrade materials you’ll need to get your portal to level 4.
From level 1 to 2, use a 15% profit.
From level 2 to 3, use a 20% profit.
From level 3 to 4 you have 2 options: Either 30% profit or 25% profit + 26 diamonds on crafting one craft of wood ghosts in your Forest Fabrication.
Once your portal is level 4, you use profits whenever you need the upgrade materials to progress through the chapter.
Whether you build 1 or 5 Forest Fabrications depends entirely on how fast you want to get to level 4 as well as your coin and supply situation.
Each craft costs 1090 mana.
With 1, you’d spend at least 11,6 days crafting them (if you were able to craft non-stop)
With 5, you’d spend 2,3 days, which is less than it takes to upgrade the portal. (so you’d probably be using boosters when upgrading with 5)
How many profits are enough?
The researches can be done with no waste, so 340 or 345% is enough.
Thoughts after doing it
I couldn't imagine not doing it like this! It's super easy, and I can't imagine how long the chapter would be if I had to spend all the mana and resources it would take to build and upgrade the guest race buildings.
The main thing slowing you down will be mana, like people mentioned in the comments as well. I had ~65k mana per day, and only experienced a few moments of being paused from doing research.
Keep your eye out for festival merchants and mana sawmills, they're a lot better than weeping willows.
For those interested in the numbers math behind it, here’s a (hopefully not too messy) spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18VLF0WinCSyMwDiv32MyH89X3Kdhzzp-8M_NyXjkoNo/edit?usp=sharing
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