Spire/Tournament squad size calc - we need your data! [Part 2]

[Deleted User - 4646370]

The first one is Elven and ended chapter 16, so M=410 (i think we should now count the final techs ?)
199 AW levels and an upgrading AW, so A=200 right ?
118 expansions, 5 of these being premium.
With this I have a base Spire squad size of 3605, instead of the 3595 given by old formula.

203 AW levels now (so 3 added), squad size is now 3625

The second one is Elven, 12 techs researched in chapter 12 but skipped the semi-mandatory SSU 16 in Dwarves so M=272.
64 AW levels and 91 expansions, 5 of these being premium, and I have a base Spire SS of 1094 (instead of 1142 with the old formula.)

5 more techs researched this week, squad size is now 1119

End-game Elven city with all expansions and 507 AW levels --> Spire SS 6935 in first encounter

SS 6984 now with 6 more AW levels.

 

[juniperknome]

132 expansions all but last 17 researches done ,198 aw levels squad size at high halls 11229 vs 11294 . 16 premium expansions. last 12 research + 5 squad size unfinished. squad size 4158 currently.

 

[Deleted User - 3932582]

132 expansions all but last 17 researches done ,198 aw levels squad size at high halls 11229 vs 11294

That's not enough information. Are you excluding the last 17 techs, or mandatory techs, and which ones?

 

[Deleted User - 3932582]

Guys, a number of you haven't included information about premium expansions. This is a mandatory input, without that I can't use the data.

But in other news, the new model works well so far. Certainly usable for all practical purposes.

 

[Deleted User - 4750465]

Chapter 6, 53 expansions, 2 premiums, 3 unlocked research in the current chapter, 31 AW levels, and 700% relic boost. 270 Squad Size.

The relic boost is a brutal part of the calculation for smaller cities.

 

[juniperknome]

squad size now is 4800 5 squad size filled in. research did noting .

 

[juniperknome]

current tourney province 21 at round 1 they better hurry up with the roll out or am

 

[Pheryll]

@juniperknome,

1) Spire base SS is calculated at the beginning of the week before the spire and does not change until the next week's calculation.
2) The tournaments on live still have their SS based on the world map SS, and are not impacted by the equation yet.

 

[Socrates28]

Lets see how I do this week! lol
16 / 37 / 524 / 193 / 3537 / 143 : 26 premium / All mandatory research completed / 4069 / 1807 09/06/2020
Opening battle of Spire.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

16 / 37 / 524 / 193 / 3537 / 143 : 26 premium / All mandatory research completed / 4069 / 1807 09/06/2020

It is interesting how close our starting Spire squads are, when some of the numbers are so different:

CH-16/MH-37/588(completed provinces?)/AW-216/SS-5316/131 Exp - 14 are premium/all research complete/Spire Squad - 4039 - 1794

Even with my larger number of AW levels and my higher normal squad size, this really shows how much those extra 12 premium expansions of yours inflate your numbers.

 

[Deleted User - 3932582]

Lets see how I do this week! lol
16 / 37 / 524 / 193 / 3537 / 143 : 26 premium / All mandatory research completed / 4069 / 1807 09/06/2020
Opening battle of Spire.

Again not quite close, looks off by ~ 2AW levels

 

[Deleted User - 3932582]

FYI, between the last Spire and this week's (2020-09-06), there was a hidden change in research. Now only the last Main Hall upgrade in chapter 16 is mandatory, but both AWs are not. Last week all 3 were mandatory.

This means that full research now should count as chapter 16 + 27 instead of chapter 16 + 29. So if you haven't done much AWs/expansions, this weeks you may see lower Spire numbers than the last week.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

FYI, between the last Spire and this week's (2020-09-06), there was a hidden change in research. Now only the last Main Hall upgrade in chapter 16 is mandatory, but both AWs are not. Last week all 3 were mandatory.

This means that full research now should count as chapter 16 + 27 instead of chapter 16 + 29. So if you haven't done much AWs/expansions, this weeks you may see lower Spire numbers than the last week.

Yeah, I think mine last week was 4035 or 4037, so only went up by a couple of points, even though I added a few AW levels. I was not tracking the exact number, unfortunately,

 

[Socrates28]

Again not quite close, looks off by ~ 2AW levels

I don't know what the problem is. I just checked Elvenstats for 2 days ago and today and they both say 193.
Is it perhaps that the Premium expansions are off?
My next premium expansion will cost 10,500 diamonds.

 

[Socrates28]

Is there a way to check for Total AW levels in game (not Elvenstats)?
Aside form adding them up I mean!

 

[Pheryll]

Is there a way to check for Total AW levels in game (not Elvenstats)?
Aside form adding them up I mean!

Your trader would have that (if you are producing divine seeds).

 

[Socrates28]

Your trader would have that (if you are producing divine seeds).

I found it after looking at the Collection Bonus number, not the other numbers which are based on Completed Provinces. I was looking in the wrong place, thanks for the post.

 

[DeletedUser5371]

16 / 37 / 618 / 336 / 5316 / 132 >>> 4903 / 2177 [09/07/2020]

 

[juniperknome]

on account of i an not sure of research at the beginning on the spire last time. same as last except now 13 research not finished. someone said changes during the event have effect. research last time might be off by two

 

[juniperknome]

last 5 squad size did 8 times 3042 come out 5k squad size . revised from earlier today