Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
In 5 years of playing, I have NEVER seen anyone offering thousands of Planks for Gems.
I have, just recently too. There are a few players around me who post 2-star trades offering 4500 tier 1 for 2000 tier 3.
In 5 years of playing, I have NEVER seen anyone offering thousands of Planks for Gems.
Sorry, by "thousands" I was thinking like ten trades of 45,000 planks for 20,000 gems.I have, just recently too. There are a few players around me who post 2-star trades offering 4500 tier 1 for 2000 tier 3.
Sorry, by "thousands" I was thinking like ten trades of 45,000 planks for 20,000 gems.
I routinely for years seen several of the opposite trades in every city.
"Are 99.9% of cross trades offering high-tier for low-tier goods?"
if so, that kinda points to them being uneven, doesn't it?
The second test/fact is that ALL fellowships who have a rule against cross trades will in fact let you post cross trades, but only if you offer your planks/stee/marble, so what does that tell you?
Sorry, by "thousands" I was thinking like ten trades of 45,000 planks for 20,000 gems.
I routinely for years seen several of the opposite trades in every city.
I once joined Cross-Tier Pirates; they encourage cross tiers and have since before the rule change. Of course, some may take exception with the "Pirates" part of that fellowship, lol, but I think it was simply a Pirate-themed fs. And absolutely no one gouged or did one star trades. All of them 2 or 3.Did you ever wonder why there are no FS's looking for only players who place cross-tier trades? What? That wouldn't be sustainable? Really?
Someone did:Someone needs to make a FS that is cross tier trading only
See how well that's working out for them here:Cross-Tier Pirates; they encourage cross tiers and have since before the rule change
Yeah, it's been a long time since I was briefly in that group. The former AM of that group is in my current one.Someone did:
See how well that's working out for them here:
Cross-Tier Pirates on ElvenStats
Truly a sustainable model
Of course, but why should I have to devote more area to tier 1 just to accept your T3 trades?This second fact only tells me that there is more demand for T1 goods than T3... but doesn't that just circle back to the point that more area could be devoted to T1 and less to T3 to resolve this problem?
Of course, but why should I have to devote more area to tier 1 just to accept your T3 trades?
My main city has a 7:2 ratio of T1 to T3 goods [manufactories]....
....I have at times offered large amounts of steel for powder in a 2 star trade to bring some into our fellowship from neighbors , which until recently was often short on it. My neighbors oblige me....
I, for one, am not upset by them. But I don't want them, either. Not in large quantities. Making a rule against something doesn't mean you're "upset" about it. Just as I'm not "upset" that some players hate the spire - they can do whatever they want, they just won't be in my group.The main point is, why are folks upset by cross tier trades if the problem is their own manufacturing imbalance or because they voluntarily taking too many T3 for their own T1 goods?
As I said almost no one minds this at all. I will trade anyone millions right now if they want to give goods upstream like you are.I am one of the ones offering T1 for T3.
Exactly. Most cross traders I think start out that way because they unlock T3 and immediately build 2 or even 3 to match their T1 and T2 output not realizing that the chapter/tournament/spire does not ask for T3 in anywhere close to the same amounts at that low a level.. If others have too much T3, they could consider tearing down and making more T1 instead.
As kekune points out it's not that it makes anyone "upset" (other than the occasional misclick what in the 16:1 days could be devastating) and as I have pointed out it's an "annoyance" especially in a FS because it creates a minefield of undesirable & irreversible trades.the main point is, why are folks upset by cross tier trades if the problem is their own manufacturing imbalance or because they voluntarily taking too many T3 for their own T1 goods?