Comparison of FA3 & FA 4 (stats)

[SoggyShorts]

I'm curious about how many fellowships reach stage 1,3, or 3 in each FA
The closest we can get is by checking the ranking page and seeing how many FS got enough points.
For now I just have the info for the last FA, I'll add the next one in a week.

In FA 3 the minimum points for each stage were 1100, 3300, 7200
In FA 4 the minimum points for each stage were 1300, 3500, 6500

Note: The numbers below only show how many fellowships got enough points that they could have completed each stage. If a FS did more than 1 path, they may have done fewer stages.

Spoiler: All 7 Servers Combined Stats

Spoiler: Aryndyll

Spoiler: Winyandor

Spoiler: Felyndral

Spoiler: Khelonaar

Spoiler: Elcysandir

Spoiler: Sinya Arda

Spoiler: Ceravyn

I find the outcome rather interesting. A 40% increase in the number of FS with enough points to complete stage 3, but an overall drop of 25% of FS that completed at least 1 stage.

 

[Laochra]

Ceravyn/The Brothers' Grimm FA III ---10th place---did not finish stage 3 {9400}
Khelonaar/The Knights of Dalmasca FA III---38th place----did not finish stage 3 {7500}

Felyndral/The Mid-Knight Clandestines FA III ---43rd place---did not finish stage 3 {7600}

535 Fellowships:
Rank #267-535= scored 1100 & below
Rank #137-266= scored 3300-1200
Rank #136-46 = scored 7300-3400
Rank #45-1 =scored 7300 or higher

Arendyll/The Archadian Resistance FA III---188th place----did not finish stage 2* {2700}
*not a full FS

705 Fellowships
Rank #349-705= scored 1100 & below
Rank #164-348= scored 3300-1200
Rank #163-57 = scored 7300-3500
Rank #56-1 =scored 7300 or higher

Elycsandir FS Wild Azure (Mage)
FA III---74th place---did not complete Stage 2 {4100}

501 Fellowships
Rank #230-501 = scored 1100 & below
Rank # 95-229 = scored 3300-1200
Rank # 32-94 = scored 7100-3400
Rank # 31-1 = scored 7400 or higher

Winyandor/Westersand Warriors City/FS established after the conclusion of FA III.

~No city in Sinya Arda~

{{{I hope I got this right!!!}}}

 

[samidodamage]

40 fellowships got at least 7200 points, and therefore could have finished 3 stages.
138-40=98 fellowships got at least 3300 points, but less than 7200 and therefore could have finished 2 stages.
306-98=208 fellowships got at least 1100 points, but less than 3300 and therefore could have finished 1 stage.

I'm going to follow this to report what I see in Elcysandir:
31 fellowships got at least 7200 points, and therefore could have finished 3 stages.
96-32=64 fellowships got at least 3300 points, but less than 7200 and therefore could have finished 2 stages.
241-97=144 fellowships got at least 1100 points, but less than 3300 and therefore could have finished 1 stage.

The only thing I see is those formulas fail to count 2 of the FS's: 31+64+144=239 instead of 241. You have to add back 1 after subtracting to account for including the higher number in the count.

 

[SoggyShorts]

The only thing I see is those formulas fail to count 2 of the FS's: 31+64+144=239 instead of 241. You have to add back 1 after subtracting to account for including the higher number in the count.

Funny, I play with excel so much I didn't even think of it as
96-31 meaning from 96 to 31, rather I was showing math of 96 minus 31. I did however mess mine up, and have fixed em now. That's what I get get for posting after midnight

31
96-31=65
241-96=145

Thank you both, we've got almost all of them now =)

 

[samidodamage]

Look at me, correcting Soggy's math, lol! It only jumps out at me because I'm in property management and it's a common formula for us to figure pro-rated portions of monthly rents. A lessee takes possession of a property by picking up keys on x date and pays for the number of days of that month they have possession of the property.

 

[DeletedUser3468]

Well... none of the 4 I was in at the time made it all the way but here's the numbers by world if it helps (or not ) :

Sinya Arda - Proudly No Diamonds-Apply - Rank 97 - Points 1900 We only finished part of second stage

Felyndral - The Funny Farm - Rank 64 - Points 5700 We finished stages 1 & 2 Didn't even start 3

Winyandor - Silent Dragons - Rank 130 - Points 3500 We finished stages 1 & 2 but again didn't start 3 (Silent Dragons is kind of an offshoot of the Funny Farm)

Arendyll - Court Lugaru (recruiting) - Rank 349 - Points 1100 No idea how far they got since I didn't participate in this one but judging by the numbers, they didn't get very far. We had more points in PND.

 

[SoggyShorts]

Well... none of the 4 I was in at the time made it all the way but here's the numbers by world if it helps (or not ) :

The numbers I need from the rankings>adventure tab are

• The number of fellowships that got 7200 or more points
• The number of fellowships that got 3300 or more points
• The number of fellowships that got 1100 or more points

Not your fellowship, all fellowships. I'm still missing numbers just for Sinya Arda
If you click the spoiler in the top post you'll see what I mean.

I expect the number to be something like 25,50,120, but I don't have a city there, so I can't check the rankings

 

[DeletedUser3468]

Sorry Soggy... I'm so wiped from all the research I've been doing, I missed that part. I'll go back and check later tonight and get back to you.

 

[DeletedUser3468]

Hope this is what you were looking for!
Sinya Arda
Number of Fellowships with 7200 or more = 15
number with 3300 - 7100 = 53
number with 1100 - 3200 = 105

Or 173 made it though stage 1 based on the numbers
68 made it through stage 2 based on the numbers and only
15 could have made it all the way through stage 3 based on the numbers.

 

[SoggyShorts]

Hope this is what you were looking for!

Perfect, thank you!

BTW I'll be asking again in a week so we can compare FA 3 and FA 4

 

[DeletedUser3468]

OH goodie!!! I'll keep that in mind!


Edited to add... and sorry for being brain fried earlier and totally missing the important part!

 

[Jixel]

Just in case it's useful, here's the stats from Beta world (ZZ1) from FA4 :
7200+ : 27
3300+ : 31
1100+ : 37

(that is, only 95 FS in total made 1100 or more points in FA4 ... )

 

[SoggyShorts]

Well, it's over, I will grab the info from K,W, and C if someone would kindly post the rest it would be much appreciated

 

[Laochra]

Arendyll
1622 Fellowships
Stage 3: 1-69 (7200+ points)
Stage 2: 70-160 (3300+ points)
Stage 1: 161-294 (1100+ points)
100pts: 426-659

659 out of 1622 participated
963 fellowships did not participate at all


Felyndral
1268 Fellowships
Stage 3: 1-55 (7200+ points)
Stage 2: 56-134 (3300+ points)
Stage 1: 135-234 (1100+ points)
100pts: 339-510

510 out of 1622 participated
758 fellowships did not participate at all


Elcysandir
1622 Fellowships
Stage 3: 1-42 (7200+ points)
Stage 2: 43-97 (3300+ points)
Stage 1: 98-183 (1100+ points)
100pts: 274-455

456 out of 1128 participated
669 fellowships did not participate at all

*I am not in Sinya Arda*

 

[DeletedUser3468]

Sinya Arda
Number of Fellowships with 7200 or more = 20
number with 3300 - 7100 = 36
number with 1100 - 3200 = 66

So based purely on the numbers 122 could have made it through stage one.
56 could have made it through stage 2
20 could have made it through stage 3.

If there's anyone else in Sinya, they might want to double check my numbers as I'm feeling a bit brain fried again...

(so brain fried I had to edit to add the world name!)

 

[DeletedUser2768]

Edited to reflect correct numbers.

Elcysandir
6500: 1-47 (47)
3500: 48-94 (46)
1300: 95-167 (72)

Arendyll
6500: 1-77 (77)
3500: 78-154 (76)
1300: 155-291 (136)

Ceravyn
6500: 1-21 (21)
3500: 22-40 (18)
1300: 41-88 (47)

I'm notoriously terrible at math. The numbers in parentheses are MY calculations on how many fellowships hit each set of points.

 

[SoggyShorts]

I got everything now, thank you everyone for your input. First post is updated with the results.

 

[Laochra]

Edited to reflect correct numbers.

Sorry, I forgot that FA IV had different numbers than FA III. {face palm}

 

[NightshadeCS]

How fascinating that in every world, more were able to reach stage three and less in the other two. Am I right in my analysis that this is probably due to the fact that stage 3 was SO HARD last time, and they eased it up a little this go-around?

And the lower numbers for the other two stages, is that likely due to so many being burned by FA3 and not participating in FA4?

 

[samidodamage]

And the lower numbers for the other two stages, is that likely due to so many being burned by FA3 and not participating in FA4?

I think that's probably true. I also think it was true for some of the higher ranking FS. Otherwise, how could our 141 ranked FS finish in 24th place ahead of some top 10 FS's? I think the devs are getting closer to a good balance with each iteration. I do think the FA3 went a bit farther in difficulty than was intended, but they scaled it back nicely in this one without making it so easy it was boring. The poor quest cycling system (they've acknowledged it stinks, but will take a long time to fix) is boring enough. For the first time, we used a switchpoint as part of our strategy of path completion. Granted, we did it midstream due to desperation, lol, but we learned something from it. Means I'll need to do more work in the future to determine the best way to get to the top of each round (we're not doing all paths, just one to get the prizes), but it's also a feature that can be used to target each FS's strengths and minimize weaknesses.