Request for a New Sub-Forum

[DeletedUser9601]

I've just had 2 threads rather stupidly deleted because they discussed items that were in beta testing, even though we all know that 99% of what shows up in beta shows up on live servers 2 weeks later.
I appreciate the desire for "no spoilers," though I think that's stupid as well, since in my 2+ years on the forums I haven't run into anyone complaining that they're learning too much. If anything its the opposite.

But the solution of having one thread isn't sufficient. The beta thread is useful for announcements and high-level discussions, but trying to discuss multiple more specific topics all in the same thread is confusing and leads to derailed conversations.

 

[shimmerfly]

I agree. And you shouldn't be censored for creating a seperate thread.
We, who like to read all the forum whether it applies to us at the time or not, do learn from all the posts.

 

[Ashrem]

We asked for a sub-forum last year. what we got is a thread. some of us predicted then that it would eventually be hundreds of pages that have very little to do with each other. I'd support an "Ideas and Suggestions" to replace the single thread with a sub-forum.

 

[DeletedUser2768]

That thread is intimidating as hell. Every time I see a new comment added to it, I cringe.

 

[Deborah M]

Oh. That is why I cannot find anything I thought was here about the new chapter I wanted to ask a question. Now I guess I will just drop my Constructs question right in the middle of the new Event conversation

 

[SoggyShorts]

Elvenar is a fantasy city building sim.
You know what works well with simulations?
Planning.
The massive popularity of elvenarchitect proves that at least some players enjoy theorycrafting, and not allowing discussions about upcoming features is... short sighted.

Sub forum for spoilers and such? Yes please.

 

[Xelenia]

At this time, there is not a decision in place to make sub forums for events and beta discussions. If you wish to discuss beta related topics in details, please refer to our beta forum or feel free to begin a discussion in our spoilers thread.

Happy Gaming!

https://us.forum.elvenar.com/index....ay-contain-spoilers.16075/page-39#post-129183

 

[DeletedUser9601]

Any reason why?

 

[Xelenia]

The decision is to keep the two servers separate.

Live event and release discussions on the live forum.
Beta event and release discussions on the beta forum. Beta is not a closed server, anyone is free to join and create an account.

This is not a new suggestion, the last time it was brought up I was able to provide the forum with a thread. With that said, I will keep this here for the rest of the day before moving it to the suggestion sub-forum.

Have a good day.

 

[Ashrem]

The decision is to keep the two servers separate.

Live event and release discussions on the live forum.
Beta event and release discussions on the beta forum. Beta is not a closed server, anyone is free to join and create an account.

This is actually pretty sound logically. Having now seen it explained, I'm content to stop agitating.

 

[Xelenia]

This is actually pretty sound logically. Having now seen it explained, I'm content to stop agitating.

When it comes to the forum, I do try my best to be transparent on the decisions made

 

[Deborah M]

When it comes to the forum, I do try my best to be transparent on the decisions made

Thank you Xelenia It is helpful to be reminded of the logic behind decisions.

 

[SoggyShorts]

Where the separation is weak is in the numbers and levels.

Beta has barely 1/10 of the forum users as US live, and they mostly fit into a "type".

It's really useful to discuss this game here and get 10x the feedback from players of far greater variety and then to take that info back to the devs on beta.

 

[DeletedUser9601]

To build off what's been said:
-the beta forum structure isn't really conducive for a lot of non-beta players. It requires a second page, a second login, and meeting/understanding an entirely new set of players. I think keeping the 'beta' forums for the 'beta' aspect makes way more sense than what mods are proposing (discussing all new gameplay mechanics in the beta forum).
-you're creating an arbitrary divide in the location of discussions. For 2-3 weeks, we discuss a topic on the beta forums, then we need to migrate over to the live forums. That completely cuts off discussion, and it means a lot of important information isn't available for for newer players when they go to search old threads.
-building off the second point, the whole point of the threads I am making is so that there can be continued discussion in the future. Players want to be able to plan for their cities when the game is under development, but we want to have follow-up discussions when we can compare notes on how our theories played out in practice.
-beta forums mean a beta city. So you're asking us to create dead cities just to be part of the discussions? Seems crazy when dead cities are probably the worst part of this game.

The point of the forums is to give the players a location to discuss the game, in all aspects. I'll be honest, Inno has some of the most unreasonable, draconian forum activity, and I think it worsens the gaming experience. You have a fairly large aspect of the very small forum community asking for something, and explaining why the current structure (one run-on beta thread that collects any and all things related to beta) doesn't work, and we get back a pretty arbitrary decision. And if you don't want a sub-forum, there are other options. Add a "beta/potential spoilers" tag to thread creations, maybe.

No offense, but the forums are for us, the paying customer. This game has a huge learning curve, and a lot of people leave the game very early. It boggles my mind that you'd want to stifle one of the learning tools available in this game.

 

[Ashrem]

Few things in life are black and white. I think a sub forum for beta discussion would be useful, the owners of the gamefeel otherwise. That's really all that matters at this point, unless one of us feels wealthy enough to buy a seat on the board of the owning company.