Alistaire
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Yeah, I know, I just vaguely remembered they were fairly consistent about it but not around when it was, that's all.
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Mykan
Oh Wise One
They are also a little distracted with the new chapter. So double the content to work through and each new chapter seems to get a little more complicated.
Jackluyt
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I have screenshots of 'The Elvenar' chapter XV - all of the tech tree researches, the Settlement, the Ancient Wonders and the 4 new Culture buildings
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Ashrem
Oh Wise One
It's actually @Alistaire who was wondering.
Alistaire
Well-Known Member
Thanks, I owe a guy 100 marble because of it (on the new server, so fairly significant! where's all the marble there???) but in the end I'm glad to hear it.
Deleted User - 312108
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@Ashrem Oops! Well, now you both know 
@Alistaire Not that one cannot get plenty since they are a part of the grand prize rotation.
@Alistaire Not that one cannot get plenty since they are a part of the grand prize rotation.
Alistaire
Well-Known Member
Well, not to the numbers I'm shooting for. Got 12 mermaids maxed@Ashrem Oops! Well, now you both know
@Alistaire Not that one cannot get plenty since they are a part of the grand prize rotation.
(and I apologize if me treating that event like a one-man FA and played it competitively was any part of the reason we're in the mess we're in right now.)Deleted User - 312108
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@Alistaire really, you have limited space and really, they could only put 2 of each sort in the grand prize list. It really isn't that hard for them to control the numbers of evolving or set buildings for players.
Alistaire
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Oh yeah, definitely. I suggested a lot of things to make things more balanced in that event for players of all levels in that event thread too. The event worked for me (end of halflings) a lot because I'd already gotten all but 1 of my advanced scout techs done, yet hadn't started scouting to max expansions yet (I did! the event actually took me right to max expansions, about 170 provinces scouted in total). And yet a guy who plays as much as me who's just newer got pretty hard-stopped because he hit the point where clearing scouted provinces started requiring orcs, yet he hadn't unlocked the tech to even make them yet.@Alistaire really, you have limited space and really, they could only put 2 of each sort in the grand prize list. It really isn't that hard for them to control the numbers of evolving or set buildings for players.
So yeah I definitely understand that event wasn't fun for everyone. It was however, a lot better than this event. You could get all the harder quests and at least it maintained some variety while doing so. (idk if you saw the list but it was programmed basically as a series of 50% chances of 2 specific quests in a loop.)
This nonsense is just...ugh, no wonder there's so many new faces on here saying "I never post here but I had to come in to say how terrible this event has been."...
Deleted User - 312108
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@Alistaire That's how beta worked for me this event. I had just started fairies so I had a lot of tech to research and complete prior to being blocked by the guest raced goods. Still not to your levels, but all three bears. So many of us made reasonable, logical suggestions and that I feel is the hardest part of being active on the forums.
The hard part of being active on beta is again, finding bugs, finding issues and making suggestions to have them do something that disimproves the game.
The hard part of being active on beta is again, finding bugs, finding issues and making suggestions to have them do something that disimproves the game.
Alistaire
Well-Known Member
See, I don't even get that about this game. Beta is supposed to allow players to test things...but from everything I've been hearing you just play the game like a regular account. Am I mistaken on that? Cause if that's true no wonder bugs don't get found.
Deleted User - 3932582
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I'd like to see how are they going to test chapter 15. Unlike events, in order to really test it players need to be at chapter 14 now - on beta. I wonder how many people are in this boat. If I'd have to speculate, I would think that not a lot. Not to mention that looking at requirements it might be a multumonth chapter no matter what. And I am pretty positive that they will still roll it out on live in a couple of weeks...
Pheryll
Set Designer
Going from construct quest #63 (Have six manufactories at level 25 or higher) to actually having two sentient manufactories of each tier is not a small transition. The 3 (1 per tier) normal manufactories count for the construct quest, but provide little assistance in the Elvenar chapter.
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qaccy
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@Pheryll You just made me remember that Inno said normal goods would become less and less important as we moved deeper into the sentient goods chapters. It appears that this is the case and that Inno is indeed designing the game around the expectation that we're scaling back our production of T1/2/3 goods, if not eliminating it entirely from our cities (at least in terms of manufactories). By now, the only parts of the game that features that include combat and are outside of the city itself - every normal building receiving upgrades in the Elvenar chapter either requires sentient goods to upgrade, or doesn't require goods at all; the Main Hall, Barracks, Mercenary Camp, Armories, and Residences all do require them while Workshops and (oddly) S1 manufactory upgrades do not. Of course, the Elvenar buildings themselves also require sentient goods to build and upgrade (as I mentioned before), as well as needing them to produce. While normal provinces are hardly a factor in play for most if not all players at this level, it appears it's going to become quite difficult for tournament and spire players to juggle keeping up normal goods production with heavy sentient demand.
Pheryll
Set Designer
When by quest a person has six manufactories, one of each normal and sentient tier; then scaling back is elimination. Due to the normal good costs of sentient production, I would figure that each sentient manufactory is to be supported by a normal manufactory (yes wonders such as time warp and even crystal lighthouse/bellspire indirectly significantly reduce the upkeep, perhaps to the point of one manufactory support for two sentient). This projection model would have the 6 required of constructs to double to 12. As I see it there is an increase in the expectation of quests even for normal manufactories.
Deleted User - 3932582
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Tell it to people who dropped T1 manus, and are trying to play the current event
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
Tell it to people who dropped T1 manus, and are trying to play the current event
Considering they are also the ones posting scum cross-tier trades, I am laughing a lot at them.
Deleted User - 3932582
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I am talking about people who won multiple Mermaid Palaces in the last event. They have no need for cross-tier as they're flush with T1s that don't count for the event.
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
There were a lot of players who dropped their tier 1 before the Mermaid stuff even happened and they have been posting those garbage trades for many months now.
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