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Your Elvenar Team
Ah, that was awkward wording. I meant that by the time I have enough AW levels to make a lvl 6 Thrones match culture/square with a Café Masquerade, I'll be in a different chapter and there will be a new and better culture item that would require even more AW levels to match
Very good point. If you build every wonder, then which ones you can build and level to 6/11/16 etc is largely out of your control. Getting runes from helping wonders gives you some control, but really it's pretty minor compared to tournament runes and smashing them.
I wouldn't build it for that reason personally.
. When I get to Woodelves I am going to have make hard choices on what to delete to make room for Mana buildings. I've been planning on deleting culture but are you suggesting I might want to delete some AW's?
I wouldn't build it for that reason personally.
To put enough KP into the WT so that it remains relevant compared to other culture buildings as you unlock them is very expensive, and KP is better spent on wonders that help you now. (imnsho)
The WT culture comes from your required culture, so if you have a massive number of factories (like 7 of each) then maybe it makes sense to have a level 6 WT giving you 12% of your required culture. If you have a more "average" sized city the benefit is much lower.
With a max military and 2:2:2:2 build
I need just under 95K culture, 150K for 170% boost.
A level 1 WT would give me 5600, or 280 per square.(255 counting the needed road)
The cafe Masq would give me 6500, or 433 per square, and doesn't need a road.
To get the same culture per square I would need a level 5 WT which would cost 998 KP
That's just comparing it to a free building.
If I compared it to a couple of burning eggs, I'd need a level 10 WT costing me 3,000 KP
When I look at the truly great wonders that allow me to get otherwise impossible things (like troop HP or damage) there's no chance I'd spend that kind of KP on the WT
Note: A player on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum using the full map grid with 7 of each factory would be getting 1143 per square from a level 10 WT. Which sounds like a lot, but is actually pretty close to a nice event building with a buff on it (like the ice troll)
Interesting discussion, what are you considering as an average city (and I understand this may differ by server)? I play on Sinya Arda, am smack in the middle of Orcs and reading up on prep for Woodelves. Most of the cultural buildings I have are related to population, or are event set pieces. I have seen references to Mykan's theory of an all AW city and like it but most of my AW's are still lower level (2-3) as I like to keep balance
I checked out your city, and imo 4 steel, 3 scrolls, and 3 dust is "average"... or perhaps "normal" would be a better word.
This is a tough question. Like @Ashrem said there are a lot of ways to go about it. The first city I took through woodelves didn't have enough mana, so I found myself getting techlocked for the first time, and I didn't like it. If you want to progress through woodelves at a faster pace, it means having more mana buildings, which automatically means you will have lots of culture. This would devalue your WT and LH.