Cost of expansions

[DeletedUser188]

I see there's a 20% discount sale on diamonds today

I was offered a 50% discount on diamonds yesterday I never hesitated and turned the offer down
It has nothing to do with the cost of expansions
I stopped buying diamonds from inno games 2 years ago before they even stated Elvenar

 

[DeletedUser4778]

I stopped buying diamonds from inno games 2 years ago before they even stated Elvenar

Why is that, Andrew420?

 

[DeletedUser188]

Without going into detail because I don't want to be banned
I had been playing FoE for 2 years
Then one day after they implemented some changes I realized I was throwing away good money
I never gamble but I would rather go down to the casino and bet 100 $ on the roulette wheel
At least I know the Natives wont change the game in the middle of my spin
Plus I might win my money back

 

[DeletedUser4778]

I never gamble but I would rather go down to the casino and bet 100 $ on the roulette wheel
At least I know the Natives wont change the game in the middle of my spin
Plus I might win my money back

Hahaha! I like your casino analogy, Andrew420!

 

[DeletedUser4658]

So what happens when we run out of room to build things in our city? You can't buy expansions anymore since they made them so expensive. You can't earn them by winning battles in provinces since the fighting is so hard. The only thing left is grinding them out in the research tree - which takes forever - and negotiating for provinces which consume a ton of goods.

So now this "city building" game is now so much a virtual plant where players log in, collect their resources, goods, and gold, restart the processes again, and log off. You're not building so much as you are tending. I guess that's a good thing, however, since I have no room to build anything, I also won't have any room for those fancy culture buildings they sell.

Hey Innogames, since you're so worried about balancing? I think it's unfair that some people have access to more advanced tech than me. Let's start everyone back at square one so we can be fair to the players who started a few months ago.

 

[DeletedUser]

I'm just happy that I'll no longer be tempted to put more $ into the game for an expansion.

Money saved.

 

[DeletedUser4220]

I am so glad that they increased prices for expansions and cut the number you can get. It was a rigged system only helping lazy players to win by abusing pay-and-play. The number of diamond expansions should be tied again to the level of MH. For example 1 expansion for 2 levels of MH. That would be more fair than letting coiners and game promo marketers running top ranks.

 

[DeletedUser2963]

rigged ... lazy players .....

Hell of a tone to set with your very first post to the forum. Frankly I dont see how limiting expansions helps anyone when the top players already have the max 33 available. Linking them to the main hall slows growth, and I can see a benefit in that. Also don't see any point in crying about coiners winning in a p2w game. But maybe thats just me.

Since "winning" is judged exclusively by the ranking board and has no impact on me or my game whatsoever I really don't see the point in inno reducing their income stream this way.

 

[DeletedUser2813]

I'm just happy that I'll no longer be tempted to put more $ into the game for an expansion.

Money saved.

I agree,as I said previously, I didnt realize how much I had spent,,but this made me add it up,and now I know how much I will spend in the future zero.

 

[Buttrflwr]

Accumulating active cities near the center of the map has made the game a TON easier, and far more playable.

So yeah, if you were put in the center...good for you. I was dropped at the bottom of the world, with no active cities S or W of me, nothing but empty space and gold mines. It made it WORSE for me, NOT better. So imho, Soggs statement still stands true. Not everyone was blessed with center stage. And they have done nothing since, at least not in my neck of the woods.

I'm just happy that I'll no longer be tempted to put more $ into the game for an expansion.

Money saved.

AMEN to that. Expansions were the main thing I dropped coin on. Even if my self-imposed battle boycott was lifted, I would NOT pay those highwayman prices for one. I was balking at 1k. DARN sure not paying over 4k. :/

 

[DeletedUser2813]

I am so glad that they increased prices for expansions and cut the number you can get. It was a rigged system only helping lazy players to win by abusing pay-and-play. The number of diamond expansions should be tied again to the level of MH. For example 1 expansion for 2 levels of MH. That would be more fair than letting coiners and game promo marketers running top ranks.

and you sir,are not aware of how the world works. yes ,it is a free game,but servers and devs cost money,and if you lose those of us willing to pay,,there goes your "free"game,too.I not only paid for expansions,but also premium buildings,and culture,therby giving you,and others like you,social assistance. the world doesnt run very long on "free",and sorry to say,that will be all that is left here.

 

[DeletedUser2870]

When I choose a game I see it as something to enjoy. And yes, I'm willing to pay a bit for that, so I tend t buy some premium-currency, whether that's gold, diamonds, stars, points, whatever.
It was no different with this game, and in almost 2 years playing this game, on several worlds, I've sunk quite a bit of money into Innogames, even though I felt they were rather expensive already.

When they changed the battlesystem into a slaughter of player troops (I hardly seem to scratch my opponents though) I, and many of my co-players decided not to buy any diamonds anymore.

Raising the prices for expansions to such ridiculous heights only confirms and strengthens my resolve in that. I'm NOT going to spend another dime on a game where the dev-team seems determined to undermine and deter the players instead of encouraging them.

That being said, I want to state that this is the ONLY game I ever played where selling premiumbuildings is not recompensed in any way, whether by returning a fraction of the diamonds or in-game resources as is happening with regular buildings.
The button says "sell" not "scrap"

 

[DeletedUser5035]

Devman,
I'm like you. A 48-year old gamer who has seen a lot over the years.

I know that there are always those that want to be number 1, but I don't see this game as competitive. At least the ranking seems to be low priority for most people. Ranking is nice so that you can measure up against other players, but more in a friendly competition way rather than the "I'm going to beat you" competition way. Since I have chosen never to spend money on this game, I use ranking to see how my skills as a city builder stack up against those that have chosen to spend money. I'm not number 1, but I would say I'm doing fairly well.

There are definitely balance issues with the game, but I think a lot of those issues come from changes that Inno has made. I like the idea of the new combat system, but it needs to be balanced so that players have a chance to win combats that are not in the Goldilocks zone. The limitations the Inno has imposed on gaining expansions, either through expense or the combat system, will eventually be the death of this game. The whole concept of players scouting too far needs to be scrapped.

The game is about space management. There are built in limitations already that make the game challenging and fun. There is no need to remove the players abilities to get space if they are willing to put forth the effort to get it. If the effort is gaining expansions from purchasing diamonds, then limit how many are available as it was tied in to the Main Hall originally. Do not make it cost prohibitive. If the effort is to gain expansions from trying to conquer the world, do not make the combats impossible and the negotiations outrageous. The combat system is good, just rebalance the troop and squad levels, as well as the negotiations costs, as you go outward.

The expansion cost change does not effect me in the least. I think it shows a lack of goodwill toward all of the players of the game.

thank you for this post. yeah I am a person that uses diamonds and i dont see a compittion at all i am building the speed and depth that i choose because for me i need the game to be faster pase so i started building like this and spent alot of money now they pretty much brought my game to a halt because i cant buy any expantions so now i havent spent almost any money on the game because it is losing my interest and I am stuck with not being able to add more until i get further in knowledge or in the world which for me is to slow i just like building and leveling everything up and they took that from me. i have 0 expantions i can add and under the zero there is a price for 12k in diamonds... this is crazy there isnt anything to lvl out 90 percent of people dont talk or comete with each other at all.... so they will lose alot of profit from me especially if i quit the game is way to slow pase for me now.. they will lose from me about 500.00 a month i think they messed the game up alot doing this for the players that just like to build and expand

 

[DeletedUser5035]

I do appreciate your reply , and I certainly understand the need for balancing . But I would have to respectfully disagree on some of your points.

Paying $20 for an expansion, to me anyways, was a little steep. I'm not an Arabian prince so dropping hundreds or even thousands on a browser game or any game for that matter is out of the question. But a $20 here and there was doable, because I do like the game and I do find it enjoyable.

But now we're talking $50 to $80 bucks for enough space for one or two culture buildings? I understand that with time the same can be accomplished, what I don't understand is pricing the general public out of being able to or even wanting to continue playing the game at the speed or pace they choose to or can afford to play. If there goal is making money, and I'm sure it is, they would be wise to execute their business model they way they are asking players to play the game ... slow and steady .

See , instead of taking my money a little at a time and providing me the opportunity to keep enjoying the game at the pace I prefer , they have opted to price me and many others out of enjoying the game at the pace we would prefer or rather at the pace our wallets would allow . They are dictating how we the public should enjoy the game ... at their pace and at their price. have they read these post ? It aint working. In fact its rather insulting. It really does want to make you say 'piss on this. Quite frankly I'm almost there, don't want my money , Ok , want me to play slow , Ok , I can do that too .

Its only costing them revenue and making me find other ways to spend those gaming moments. People are not going to keep playing/paying under these terms . I want to buy their premium content and I'll even suck it up and givem a little for the space to put it , but now its just taking advantage of the customer and everyone knows it . Balancing is one thing ... being reasonable is another, the only thing this price hike is balancing is INNO's bank account , that and the numbers of free players vs the number of players saying .. "ehhh na I'm not payin that. Simply put, its going to turn Pay players to Free players . Don't believe me ? read this thread again , it already has .

thank you for this post. yeah I am a person that uses diamonds and i dont see a compittion at all i am building the speed and depth that i choose because for me i need the game to be faster pase so i started building like this and spent alot of money now they pretty much brought my game to a halt because i cant buy any expantions so now i havent spent almost any money on the game because it is losing my interest and I am stuck with not being able to add more until i get further in knowledge or in the world which for me is to slow i just like building and leveling everything up and they took that from me. i have 0 expantions i can add and under the zero there is a price for 12k in diamonds... this is crazy there isnt anything to lvl out 90 percent of people dont talk or comete with each other at all.... so they will lose alot of profit from me especially if i quit the game is way to slow pase for me now.. they will lose from me about 500.00 a month i think they messed the game up alot doing this for the players that just like to build and expand

 

[Devman]

Hey! ... bonus knowledge points with premium purchase . lol . would be the perfect time to upgrade, but alas, what's the point. what ever would I do with this new bounty of diamonds . Cultural building maybe ? sure, If I had a place to put it . "delete some stuff" ... great idea, downgrade to spend money to upgrade, yea ... no. "Buy an expansion" , @$50-$80 a square ? lol , please. I log on and do my fellowship rounds, collect my Items, then notice I have spent 4 1/2 minutes actually playing this game with nothing left to do. Then I stare at my village for another 2 minutes until I realize , wtf am I doing. So I should spend $50 bucks to do this ? play for 10 minutes twice a day ? Lol . You folks at INNO must really think pretty highly of yourselves, or pretty low of your patrons . Expecting people to spend a little extra to advance in your wonderful free browser game is not unreasonable . Expecting people to continue spending hard earned money on a free game that you insist on limiting is .... very unreasonable . Return your expansion prices to its previous state to show you support your customers and we will respond in kind .

 

[Buttrflwr]

Return your expansion prices to its previous state to show you support your customers and we will respond in kind .

And fix the battle system so that those of us who were bad boys and girls and scouted past our techs, without KNOWING we were doing it, can actually PLAY the game again. My routine is the EXACT same as yours, except it takes me a bit longer to do visits, as I visit my neighbors too. I imposed my diamond boycott on the basis of not being able to fight, the expansion extortion was just the nail in the money coffin.