Dew Spinner
Well-Known Member
I can't take the down time, need to be training troops all the time.
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Your Elvenar Team
March Fellowship Adventure
- Thread starter LutherTheHairy
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samidodamage
Buddy Fan Club member
I think @Nectar of the Gods was saying that using diamonds to upgrade your MA is a good use of diamonds for overall game play, not that it's worth it just for the FA's. Higher level MA's have way shorter times for producing spells (mine produce CC's exclusively and they're 6hrs each at lvl 5 as are IM spells; supply spells and culture spells are 4hrs each and MM spells are 6hrs). An additional benefit (to newer cities or cities that don't play Spire or have ungodly numbers of Spire sets) is higher levels also provide more spell fragments for disenchanting items.
Sprite1313
Well-Known Member
I usually delete my craftable buildings like orc nests and mana sawmills. I take a production and culture hit for a while, but crafting them gives me residue badges and buildings in my current chapter, and that gives me a decent amount of space for FA buildings without disrupting my guest race. Of course, if the timing works, the guest race space is ideal for building a tent city.
Darielle
Chef, Scroll-Keeper, and Buddy Fan Club Member
If it were just coming in every hour, it wouldn't be bad. It's possible that you are at a higher level and you don't have to collect as fast as I do. With no armories, if I fill one slot, I don't even have enough time to do a set of brews before it's ready, lol.
Edit: I've recently upgraded both my barracks and my armories by quite a bit, to max them. It's possible that it would be different this FA. I'll be curious to check that out.
Magvenar
New Member
Much appreciated Sami!
ajqtrz
Chef - loquacious Old Dog
We plan way in advance. We build to improve our score about 5% each FA because the scores keep going up. We count our dedicated workshops and T1 and find a ratio of 6:1 was, in the past, a good one. 6 WS for each T1 Set. Now that you don't need quite so many T1 mfrs to make a badge (5 vs 6 before the change) we are still working on it.
We take a good look at our previous performance and see what we achieved. We calculate it based upon dedicated squares vs scores achieved (or number of badges). We find that in analyzing other fellowships the higher the number the higher the ranking...in general.
In any case, once we figure out where we were weak, we start building to upgrade that. We will have a few more large T1 Boosted mfrs this time around and that should help with bracelets. We have also set goals for crafting and discussed how to craft as efficiently as possible -- including saving up a bunch of CC's and time instants so you an craft 2-3 things (or more) each cycle.
Then, as the FA approaches we each report T1 and WS we are each doing. Well, most of us report...LOL. Nobody is required to do anything, btw, and I while I can tell you who did what on which waypoint, I and the FA Officer are the only ones who know. Once we know who is going to do what, we choose our paths. Usually we do all stage 1 and 2 and one path on all the waypoints on stage 3. Choosing is based upon knowing what we struggled with and lowering those numbers. Last time we had over 100 more statues than we needed ...so we know we can do statues. This time I looked and took the green because, as Soggy noted, it's the most balanced.
Finally, the path is almost irrelevant when you are large enough to do them as they are usually done by day 3. Most of the badges we need will be for the Pit and since we plan that too, we know ahead of time what we are going to need. We seldom run out of the 24 or 48 hour items.
It's all in the planning and communication you do during and even between each FA. Track what you did and how you did and after a few FA's you can more easily predict what your fs can and can not do.
AJ
We take a good look at our previous performance and see what we achieved. We calculate it based upon dedicated squares vs scores achieved (or number of badges). We find that in analyzing other fellowships the higher the number the higher the ranking...in general.
In any case, once we figure out where we were weak, we start building to upgrade that. We will have a few more large T1 Boosted mfrs this time around and that should help with bracelets. We have also set goals for crafting and discussed how to craft as efficiently as possible -- including saving up a bunch of CC's and time instants so you an craft 2-3 things (or more) each cycle.
Then, as the FA approaches we each report T1 and WS we are each doing. Well, most of us report...LOL. Nobody is required to do anything, btw, and I while I can tell you who did what on which waypoint, I and the FA Officer are the only ones who know. Once we know who is going to do what, we choose our paths. Usually we do all stage 1 and 2 and one path on all the waypoints on stage 3. Choosing is based upon knowing what we struggled with and lowering those numbers. Last time we had over 100 more statues than we needed ...so we know we can do statues. This time I looked and took the green because, as Soggy noted, it's the most balanced.
Finally, the path is almost irrelevant when you are large enough to do them as they are usually done by day 3. Most of the badges we need will be for the Pit and since we plan that too, we know ahead of time what we are going to need. We seldom run out of the 24 or 48 hour items.
It's all in the planning and communication you do during and even between each FA. Track what you did and how you did and after a few FA's you can more easily predict what your fs can and can not do.
AJ
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Alram
Flippers just flip
Why can't the rest of your fellowship see who did what? Is there a setting to make it a secret?
samidodamage
Buddy Fan Club member
Anyone can see while the map is still up. But it goes away when you flip to the next stage or into the pits. It's a matter of whether or not someone is keeping a record of those contributions elsewhere. In one of my FS, I track it during the FA, but I ditch the data at the end of each stage. I could keep it, but why? I truly don't care who does the most or the least. It's a team activity and as long as we reach team goals, who cares? Really, the best reason for doing the FA is the camaraderie and just plain fun you can have with it. It's certainly not the prizes, even if you go for rank, lol! We've never failed to rank in the top 20 unless we were just burned out on them and only did 1 path/stage and quit. We've made the top 10 four times. It's been over a year since we did the 1 path/stage, because that was just too boring, lol! I just don't see the point in keeping a historical scorecard. Trust me, if there's a member who consistently deviates from the team plan, you'll know and so will most of your FS members!
Alram
Flippers just flip
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Thank you. I thought it was this way but I play on mobile only so I'm never sure what I'm missing.
ajqtrz
Chef - loquacious Old Dog
Because we have a very fancy spreadsheet which we fill out as we go. It takes about 15 minutes per stage to do so and in the end we know how many of what badges each person gave at each waypoint. When we plan we try to predict based upon individual efficiencies (badges per dedicated squares) the performance level of the player and assign a point value to their their efficiency. This gives us an overall idea of how much they are likely to contribute given their current space considerations. Why others can't see it is because we choose to keep all the evaluations in leadership to avoid any hurt feelings. Some players have all kinds of space but are quite inefficient in using it or on line so irregularly that their efficiency score it pretty low. But since we don't require any participation, it doesn't go into any evaluation of if we should keep them or not. It's just so we can predict where we will end up.
In the end our predictions for the last 4-5 FA's has been too low. We usually expect to place around 10th when we actually do the fs (as versus testing a new format, which we did once), and we have placed in 5th, 6th, 10th (I believe) and 12th in the last 4 we actually participated in.
Again, it's all in the planning and execution of a clear plan, in my opinion.
@samidodamage You asked: "I could keep [the data], but why?" I do hope you can see the opportunites in doing so above. As you can see I like being able to predict what my fs can do so I don't suggest goals too difficult, which can be discouraging. It's not about ranking or finding out who is not "up to snuff," but simply knowing what my fs can and cannot do. Since we continue to improve and haven't lost anybody due to discouragement for a long, long, time, I suspect it's working.
AJ
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The Fairy
Scroll-Keeper, Buddy Fan Club Member
I don't think we get the FA announcements later anymore on the US server (but I do get more announcements, e.g. release notes, on the German server). I have a tiny German city just to read news there which I started cause some time ago we got FA announcements earlier there.
I got the message in game on the US server Tuesday 10 AM (CET), so 48+ hours before the FA starts (I think it started 11 AM (CET) on beta). Still really late to setup city and prepare statues though
Sprite1313
Well-Known Member
My guess is that is the reason they send out the notices so late; to limit advanced production. But maybe I am being too cynical.
Aritra
Well-Known Member
Collected what?
Iyapo1
Well-Known Member
My 48 hour productions. I set them for a Tuesday morning p/u. Obviously I jumped the gun.
Aritra
Well-Known Member
I wish it had started on a Tuesday instead of Thursday.
knightshade56
Member
we know the day anybody know the time it starts
Sprite1313
Well-Known Member
Around lunch time in Germany; maybe about 7am east coast US.
knightshade56
Member
Thank you
Aritra
Well-Known Member
@knightshade56
The last few events/FA have started for me at 4am, US central time... I'm assuming the trend to be likely to continue.
The last few events/FA have started for me at 4am, US central time... I'm assuming the trend to be likely to continue.