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Mountain halls ripoff

Ashrem

Ashrem

Oh Wise One
Mykan said:
A person with 9 factories gets more out of it than someone with 3 but less than someone with 20.
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Exactly. For a person who intends to fight every possible fight they can, and will need goods primarily for building and upgrading, the Mountain Halls is unlikely to be a solid strategy. For the person who primarily negotiates, so is devoting a large chunk of their city to factories, it's a much different choice.
 

DeletedUser8192

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SoggyShorts said:
Right, at level 1 it takes up 24 squares, and saves 24 squares.
If you have 4 of each factory it saves you 32, if you have 5 of each, it saves 40. All at level 1 mountain halls.

Yes, since the only scenario I tested was with my level 23 factories, I assumed max boost.

This doesn't factor in support buildings. For example, a level 23 gem factory needs roughly
24 squares
2 road tiles
45 squares of workshops (assuming 150% culture)
53 squares of residences for the gem factory
35 squares of residences for the workshops
41 squares of culture for res/ws/gem (assuming 340 culture per square from pole of donations) to get 150% culture

Once you start to factor everything into what you need to run a Gem factory, it's closer to 200 squares than the 24 that the building itself takes up.
That is what I tried to do for each tier, and then see how the Mountain halls compares to the GA.
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And this ^^^folks Is just one of the reasons I tell new players to "go to the forum and look for Soggy posts"
*I do recommend other folks too, don't feel bad*

Very nice Soggy, thanks for taking the time to make the game better understood, and a bit less frustrating for so many players :D
 
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WizardKrieg

WizardKrieg

Active Member
Yep, Mountain Halls is a ripoff. Was just told it is based on the base...what a crock. Have a free upgrade (6) coming for it and it will be my last.
All my boosted are maxed and Mountain Halls was at 736%, Upgraded it went to 740%...a 4% increase, so, thought I would write down all the numbers (before upgrade) to see just what I got and if in fact it was a true 4% increase.
Recently upgraded it, here is what happened.
Lvl 19 Planks went from 955 to 1000. An approx 4% increase....I was pleased
Lvl 12 Silk went from 745 to 748. up 3 units
Lvl 9 Gems went from 962 to 966. up 4 units
I contacted support, they told me it was based on the base....why was I never told this before? Why did planks go up 4% and others did not?
As of today, they still can not give me a positive answer as to the diff. Am becoming very discouraged by these practices.....The population nurfing is still very fresh in my mind.
 
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DeletedUser9601

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wizardkrieg said:
I contacted support, they told me it was based on the base....why was I never told this before? Why did planks go up 4% and others did not?
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What is your percent boost for Planks? What is it for Silk? What is it for Gems?
 

DeletedUser9247

Guest
Did you count it from base productions?
MT boost- 72%
so [base prod] x [%] / 100 = [MT boost]
Planks lvl 24 regular 350, relic 2450, MT 252 =72%
Scrolls lvl 23 regular 334, relic 2338, MT 241- rounded up from 240,48=72,15%
Dust lvl 23 regular 402, relic 2814, MT 290- rounded up from 289,44=72,13%

Everything checks out for me.
 
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DeletedUser9601

Guest
And to get to the root of the issue (whether or not the game code is miscalculating your particular boost):
a. I think it would be really hard (and probably overwhelming for those not math-inclined) to give the level of detail needed in a tooltip to show all of these calculations that we're doing. Especially when you factor in the language differences/things being lost in translation
b. even if the tooltip is misleading, Mountain Halls is still a very good wonder, and nearly all players have and should have it.
 
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