Ashrem
Oh Wise One
Sorry @MinMax Gamer, Enevhar is right. The cross-tier trades started a long time ago, and got worse a few months ago (shortly after the Jester's tavern dropped) There has not been an appreciable uptick since the mermaid event.
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Deleted User - 3932582
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I am not saying that there were no people without T1s before the Mermaid event. I was replying to a statement that Inno is moving in a direction of reducing/eliminating T1s, and pointed out that people who dropped T1s after the Mermaid event (behaviour that would be consistent with that statement) got screwed in the current event.
qaccy
Well-Known Member
It's been pretty apparent for a while now that events don't really mix with normal gameplay very well. Some players are just now finding that out with the significant changes brought on by this current Autumn event. Tasks that are doable for chapters 1-4 oddly get more difficult the further you go up the research tree, to the point where eventually you have to decide whether to focus on events or 'normal' gameplay. As far as normal gameplay goes, T1-3 goods are basically out of the picture now but unfortunately, there are still areas that, while optional, are important to many players and haven't really been replaced by T4-6 yet (if they ever are).
Ashrem
Oh Wise One
OK, I didn't interpret the thread correctly. My apologies.
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@Alistaire Yes, their version of beta is a live server that gets the new code pushed currently 2 weeks earlier. The original 1.0 had a longer time than that, but events I think are 2 week (maybe less). Otherwise, tourneys etc all are in sync. We buy expansions etc, just as a live server. We do sometimes get things like a few of the teleport spells for free. And Spire was in beta longer than many other things.
Bugs do get reported, but given it is pushed to live so quickly they aren't always addressed.
Bugs do get reported, but given it is pushed to live so quickly they aren't always addressed.
qaccy
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The delay between beta and live seems to depend on what it actually is that's coming. The Spire spent a while in beta before coming to live servers. On the other hand, since events have seasonal themes there's a rather rigid schedule when it comes to releasing those. Or at least there is for live servers, but perhaps Inno should start putting events out 'off season' on beta in order to give beta players more time to test them and submit feedback. This may require skipping one season in order to set up a proper delay so it's unlikely to happen, but something like testing the Spring event on beta while live servers are having their Winter event would give them a couple months to tweak things if necessary. With how things currently are, events on beta are basically already 'done' and there's no time for Inno to really change anything before oh hey, here it comes on the live servers!
Mykan
Oh Wise One
Taking more months doesn't necessarily mean they will have more time. Depending on how their development is working they probably have sprint time assigned now as the event is current and active. If they had months the priorities would likely move and just not get done. Current thinking is along the lines of its better to get something 80% done and get it out there, not to get it 100% correct. Beta gives them an opportunity for feedback, early analysis and spotting any major bugs. They will address some bugs but they likely only have x amount of time assigned to fixing event bugs, other sprint time will be to new features most likely.
Once in a blue moon they do delay the release to live due to either a certain major bug or too many bugs, but it is very rare. You are far more often going to see them make changes based on beta feedback, which happens more often then people think (especially with new features).
Once in a blue moon they do delay the release to live due to either a certain major bug or too many bugs, but it is very rare. You are far more often going to see them make changes based on beta feedback, which happens more often then people think (especially with new features).
Deleted User - 312108
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@Mykan for this event with so many changes, I think it would have been good to have another week or two between live and beta. Just so that they could tweak things and analyze the data and feedback from beta. The level requirements were a major change and one that has a huge impact on players. Far more so than many of the tweaks prior to Mermaids. My hope would be that internally they would do something akin to a speeded test that is based more on performance testing than unit or system testing where they have a thousand cities of various chapter levels programmed to complete the quest, some at the start of the chapter, some mid chapter, some end. Each of these cities would have various resources and mimic live player play between casual, daily and hard core. Then you would take these and not just do it for that event, but event, break, (completing tourney and spire as able) then doing events until some of the players that started in chapter 1 are in chapter 14 to see how well coded players could play the endless events and what impact some of the quests have on extended game play.
chgobob33
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But of course INNNO goes completely the opposite with this event requiring late chapter users to have HUGE T1 production capacity. I was quite happy with like 8 level 15 T1 now I have the Nightmare of 6 level 24 T1 I do NOT WANT but have to have for the stupid event. I hit tournaments pretty hard 2,000 points every week little catering, I already have 15 Million in T1 storage already. I don't need all this wasted T1, and huge usage of population and culture, that is only used for Idiotic Event quests!
qaccy
Well-Known Member
@chgobob33 You wanna use up those goods, start doing more tournament! I regularly go over 5000 points in a week. Catering varies depending on which tournament it is but those scores generally keep pace with what I produce. Don't just stockpile, put them to use!
Deleted User - 3932582
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Really depends on how slow you are prepared to go, and what else do you have. Guest race goods likely won't be a primary gating restriction - sentient good will be.
DeletedUser2959
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Yeah, too many of us have a stockpile of Portal Profits. Inno will turn them into Spell Fragment fodder before they'll let them speed up a new chapter.
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
The Vortex's first effect stills seems odd to me. It has so little meaning when you cannot even make use of it til chapter 16. But what if they have some weird idea to make chapter 16+ like a new game+ from video games, where you go back to the beginning and you play through a harder version of everything. Except for us, this new game+ would start over at chapter 6, with higher costs, etc, where this effect would actually make a difference? So chapters 16-25 would be harder versions of chapters 6-15 again?
Black watch
Well-Known Member
Bite your tongue Enevhar! 
Jackluyt
Platinum Leaf -FB
A Manufacturing Challenge just started on Beta World - win Medals by making factory production runs of any goods (not just boosted) and by casting spells.
The prizes are:
The prizes are:
- 270 medals - I KP Instant
- 810 medals - 3 KP Instant
- 1620 medals - 7 KP Instant
- 2970 medals - I0 KP Instant
- 5400 medals - I5 KP Instant
Jackluyt
Platinum Leaf -FB
Level One are cool!
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