Not sure where you're getting your info, but second place in the current tournament is not playing on the app. I should say was. He just quit this game for good, frustrated with the recent changes in the game - tournament, chapter 17 and inability to play non-mobile version. He is not the first 1mm+ player I know to quit in the last few months.The second place player only plays on the app. It blows my mind. I would never get past (say) P35 with auto-fighting before I run out of troops.
Province 20 / Round 1 | Own SS | Enemy SS | Enemy/Own |
End of Chapter 15 | 33,820 | 51,407 | x 1.52 |
End of Chapter 17 | 48,100 | 73,112 | x 1.52 |
Increase | +42% | +42% | 0% |
Besides Tournament difficulty itself, there is another point I wanted to mention, with my city numbers.
The problem is related to game progression and its result.
Ok, let's see the effect of completing Chapters 16 and 17 in my city:
Province 20 / Round 1 Own SS Enemy SS Enemy/Own End of Chapter 15 33,820 51,407 x 1.52 End of Chapter 17 48,100 73,112 x 1.52 Increase +42% +42% 0%
As you can see, it results in an increase of 42% of Own and Ennemy Squadsize (for any province, the squadsizes change depending on the province, but the increase remains the same).
And what did I get as a compensation ? A slight increase in Military Buildings production speed:
+11% for Barracks and Mercenary Camp
+35% for Training grounds.
Which is very far from compensating the huge increase of an already tremendously high squadsize.
This is another wrong effect of the tournament changes, that brings the question: "why would I want to progress further in that game if the only result is to make me even weaker in tournaments ?"
Well @Shyama1 has all max level wonders, so I'd say she's gonna have a hard time doing that...you just need to increase your troop production
Well @Shyama1 has all max level wonders, so I'd say she's gonna have a hard time doing that...
Even for a middle-of-the-road player such as myself, I think you're making it sound much easier than it is.
I mean I could increase my barracks output by 1.666% for 620 KP and my barracks is responsible for less than 25% of my troops.
So "Just increasing my troop production" to cover that 30% additional troops loss would cost somewhere around 65,000 KP(accounting for the diminishing returns on KP invested), which would take at least a couple of years after I stop spending any KP on research.
Of course, during those years of dumping KP into my wonders trying to just get back to where I was in chapter 15 there will probably be more chapter releases, and if they follow the same "one step forwards, two steps back" formula, I can literally never improve or even maintain my city if I chose to move past the start of chapter 16.
So if you'd stayed at the start of chapter 16 instead, what would that 5K have been? 6K? More?I am close to done with chapter 17, all my current AWs are between level 11 and 16. I have maxed the Barracks for the chapter, have not done the research yet for the upgrades for the other two buildings, and just started upgrading my 6 Armories for the chapter. I have only used my Brown Bear once or twice since the change to the tournament, being able to make enough troops without it to consistently average 5k points each week of the new tournament.
So if you'd stayed at the start of chapter 16 instead, what would that 5K have been? 6K? More?
Yeah, choosing to do less than you are capable of doing will generally mean that nerfs don't stop you from doing it again.And I could easily do more than 5k, but that is where I choose to stop.
I have 5 Brown Bears
I'm curious: why?a production time of 50+ hours (24 Armories)
Increased benefit when brown bear is fed? Just delay pickup.why have a queue greater than 24h long?
Unless I don't understand how brown bears work, that can't be it.Increased benefit when brown bear is fed? Just delay pickup.
Yes. So, if you delay picking up troops for 2 days (48hrs) & then feed the bear, you get the boost to all troops made over the past 2 days. Then you start with your steps and using timers.I thought that you feed the bear, and it gives X% more troops when you collect from your barraks/TG/MC
Unless I don't understand how brown bears work, that can't be it.
I thought that you feed the bear, and it gives X% more troops when you collect from your barraks/TG/MC
So at most it would save some clicks
E.G.
- Open barracks,
- fill queue,
- use timers,
- before time runs to zero refill queue.
- Repeat 2-4 as desired.
- When you're done Feed bear(s) and collect troops.
So as long as your queue time is greater than your biggest timers (which are 20h ones since the 40s are super rare) then it shouldn't matter if your queue is 24h or 100h
Can you continue to make enough troops to compensate for the increase? If yes, then no big deal because the actual difficulty of the fights did not change at all. If no, then you just need to increase your troop production to keep up. Again, not a big deal. Us fighters have it easy when compared to caterers, though. I think it is much harder to increase the goods production, than it is to increase troop production. And when you add in the need for orcs, mana, etc to catering costs, end-chapter players who try to mainly cater are hurt much more by advancing in the game. For fighters, it is a tiny blip in comparison.