Diamond Purchase Protest - Changes to Lighthouse & Bell Tower AWs Unacceptable

[DeletedUser2870]

I wont. Havent done so for about 6 months. I still have a reserve, though thats going down fast. But nope, nope, nope. Not worth it anymore

 

[SoggyShorts]

I have missed at least one chest most days because of the timing of my return visits as I click on the notices when I am in game and return any new visit.

The simple fix is to keep doing visits after you've cleared your FS until you get all 3 chests. It shouldn't take many, and maybe you'll find a new neighbor that also only does return visits..

 

[Ashrem]

The simplest fix is to reserve a handful of neighbors who never visit back to visit any 24 hour period when you don't have someone better to visit. If you are so pressed for time and coin that you have to visit everyone you possibly can exactly 23 hours apart one day so that you "miss" those chests, they'll actually still be there 23 hours after that.

edit: Now that I think about it, the fact you can visit more than once in a day actually means that you should never miss a chest at all. Visiting more than once a day doesn't mean you don't get chests, it just means you don't get them on one round out of 24.

There's really no need to miss out on chests if you care.

 

[DeletedUser7367]

Hari kari, also known as sepuku, is an ancient form of ritual suicide that defeated samurai, or those whose shame was 'too unbearable' would use to restore their honor in death. In sepuku, one would take a wakizashi (short sword) and dissembowel oneself. [Addendum to definition above: What INNO did had NOTHING to do with being honorable: Sadly, their demise will be self inflicted.]

 

[DeletedUser2870]

hara-kiri
(hara-belly, kiri-to cut, where hara can also mean the centre of ones being. with seppuku being a word for (ritual, though not necessarily so) suicide)
Other than that I completely agree. Inno's constant sudden changes make them completely unreliable and makes it impossible for players to make any kind of serious planning

 

[DeletedUser188]

One in Felyndral and 2 in Arendyll. That's 75 whales who realistically only buy when the new chapter comes out, so no diamonds would have been bought at this time anyway... Those 75 account for a very minuscule amount of revenue compared to how many other lower level players there are across the many servers and many countries who are still buying on a regular basis. Pointless and useless protest, you all are going to buy again anyway when the Elementals come out

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about regarding what anyone else on THIS server is doing
Let alone what is going on in the 21 other servers
I am in one of the guilds that are protesting and I don't even use diamonds AM I A WHALE ?
Get your facts straight diamond players don't just buy them at the beginning of chapters THEY BUY THEM WHENEVER THEY WANT
You would know this if you actually took the time to get to know any of them
But you just choose to judge them and you are SO OBVIOUSLY JEALOUS that your judgement is flawed
You should just keep your opinion to yourself regarding things you know nothing about
They aren't better players because of using diamonds
You aren't the better player because you don't use them
So get over yourself already

 

[DeletedUser3297]

Ha! If you ever get a chance to see the numbers on diamond buys, you will see that most whales have spent luxury car prices on this game while most play it for free. However... There are those who come, spend get bored and leave. That is the target audience, that is where most of their revenue comes from. I actually do know what I am talking about as I have seen the numbers.

 

[DeletedUser1996]

Diamond Purchase Protest - Changes to Lighthouse & Bell Tower AWs Unacceptable

Inno - PLEASE PLEASE reconsider this change as it is blatantly unfair.

it`s quite clear - what else needs to be said !!

 

[DeletedUser7367]

A couple of points, if you will all indulge me. First, I must say that I am not a diamond player but that circumstance is dictated more by financial wherewithal rather than by choice so I am not one who bears any animosity toward those who are. Diamonds are an allowed game element to be utilized by players who either choose to or are otherwise able to do so. I do buy them on a limited basis, however, and will refrain from doing so in support of the boycott and have encouraged my full fellowship to do likewise.

Another point. Diamond players who have purchased KPs with diamonds in order to upgrade their respective AWs are having their hard earned cash literally stolen by Inno with the recent AW downgrades...A move that would certainly result in some sort of litigation if similarly performed in a private sector business transaction.

Finally, and more personally, I visit my roughly 200 neighbors on a daily basis unless personal or game constraints and commitments prohibit them. I rely on my CL heavily and even more so during tournament and event play. I made game sacrifices to obtain it, to place it and again and again to upgrade it. Dropping from utilization approximately 200 times every 23 hours to a maximum of 3 times every 23 hours is an absurd downgrade and has rendered it virtually useless which is a huge blow to my game play.

 

[DeletedUser6892]

I, and many others worked very hard to get the Crystal Lighthouse & other AW, then again to upgrade because of the benefits, just to have them taken away....I agree w/what everyone is saying, this is unfair, hurts many players of all levels.
-Plan ahead, you say, well, I did, and now have space take up by at least one AW I would've waited to place at this time, & would've use space for other things I needed.....
-I WILL be talking to my FS & neighbors, I was encouraging members to place this for what? Bad decisions were made re: AW's on this update!!!
-Please, listen like you say & change these back.

 

[DeletedUser6892]

You would be correct if I only visited my fellowship at the same time every day and never visited neighbours but I do visit neighbours who visit me and that occurs throughout the day. I have missed at least one chest most days because of the timing of my return visits as I click on the notices when I am in game and return any new visit. I tell myself that I should remember not to do this if I want my chests to realign with my fellowship visits but I forget and then I find that I visit my fellowship in the morning and sometimes return visits late at night so there can be at least a 12 hour gap between the 2 sets of visits and this means that I may get a chest in the morning and one in the evening and the next day I will have no idea the timing between the 2 as I forgot to write it down. It is all my fault for returning visits. It never bothered me when they were just chests but now that my goods bonus depends on me finding them I am frustrated. I want the goods back the way they were.

First the goods amounts were low and were just a nice bonus, then they revamped all the AW's and the goods were a really nice bonus and actually useful now they have vanished and I miss them. I do not want to have to try and reset all my chests so they occur at the same time. I have done this in the past but it is really annoying as you cannot dictate which visit will bring one. I suppose I will just have to stop returning my neighbours visits until they reset properly and hope my visit times do not change again. I do try not to live by the clock though.

 

[Ashrem]

A move that would certainly result in some sort of litigation if similarly performed in a private sector business transaction.

What do you think Inno is, a government agency? A private citizen buying in-game currency for cash from a game company is pretty much the textbook definition of a private sector transaction. Maybe you should contact your lawyer.

 

[DeletedUser6892]

You would be correct if I only visited my fellowship at the same time every day and never visited neighbours but I do visit neighbours who visit me and that occurs throughout the day. I have missed at least one chest most days because of the timing of my return visits as I click on the notices when I am in game and return any new visit. I tell myself that I should remember not to do this if I want my chests to realign with my fellowship visits but I forget and then I find that I visit my fellowship in the morning and sometimes return visits late at night so there can be at least a 12 hour gap between the 2 sets of visits and this means that I may get a chest in the morning and one in the evening and the next day I will have no idea the timing between the 2 as I forgot to write it down. It is all my fault for returning visits. It never bothered me when they were just chests but now that my goods bonus depends on me finding them I am frustrated. I want the goods back the way they were.

First the goods amounts were low and were just a nice bonus, then they revamped all the AW's and the goods were a really nice bonus and actually useful now they have vanished and I miss them. I do not want to have to try and reset all my chests so they occur at the same time. I have done this in the past but it is really annoying as you cannot dictate which visit will bring one. I suppose I will just have to stop returning my neighbours visits until they reset properly and hope my visit times do not change again. I do try not to live by the clock though.

I agree; my hours I can't schedule, I do as I am able! The benefits of the AW bldgs, i look over very carefully for the space they take and benefits I need .... have encouraged others to use CL because of the goods; this has hurt my game just when event starts, too, I visit more, because of the previous benefits, and I visit everyone I can, after visiting my FS; Many players have situations where they can't be on the schedule to best benefit from new changes; & was coming out way ahead w/previous benefits regardless of when I am able to get in-game.....Great point made by this member; and I am also one who visits regardless if I have a golden hand or just can visit! Don't but diamonds much (can't at this time) so don't know if that will be much of a protest, I think the fact that so many of us feel this was a bad change should be enough..TY for listening.....

 

[Ashrem]

If you help your FS members every day, you will never miss out on chests. The chest appearances are on a longer cycle than the help, so you will never miss a chest because of the shorter cycle. That's just bad math. The only way to miss chests is not do help at least once a day, or not look for the chests when they drop.

 

[DeletedUser2870]

Ha! If you ever get a chance to see the numbers on diamond buys, you will see that most whales have spent luxury car prices on this game while most play it for free. However... There are those who come, spend get bored and leave. That is the target audience, that is where most of their revenue comes from. I actually do know what I am talking about as I have seen the numbers.

Well, isn't that nice?
You've seen the numbers you say. And claim in several posts to have some kind of inside knowledge on future changes, so why not enlighten the rest of us instead of constantly blabbering on what you know?

What I know is that I used to spend money on this came. Regularly, not 'only when a new chapter came out' as you keep saying. I spent about 1500 in 18 months on one account, and another 1000 on another. I didn't really mind doing that, as I understand a game needs paying customers to be able to pay its developpers and staff to make it possible for others to play for free.
I do however object to being constantly stabbed in the back, and constantly be confronted with changes that make my style of playing impossible or increasingly less fun, which is why I stopped buying them. And I bought regularly, ev en if I hadn't used all of them yet, so I still have a stockpile, though that's going down.

Something else I know is that since I stopped paying here, I started playing another game, by another company, where I now do spend money. So they lost me as a paying customer.
Also, I can see exactly the same happening, especially on the dutch server, where several paying, high-chapter players, some of my own FS, have quit over the last few months exactly because of the constant -beep-ing of paying customers by Inno. The more they keep up with this course, the more players they will lose.

 

[DeletedUser7367]

What do you think Inno is, a government agency? A private citizen buying in-game currency for cash from a game company is pretty much the textbook definition of a private sector transaction. Maybe you should contact your lawyer.

If they were a Publicly Held Company, Trading on ANY International Stock Exchange>? There would be Hell to pay, I assure you.

 

[Ashrem]

If they were a Publicly Held Company, Trading on ANY International Stock Exchange>? There would be Hell to pay, I assure you.

That's a ludicrous assertion for two reasons.

1) A privately owned company is no less susceptible to a lawsuit than one that had publicly held shares.
2) Inno is simply a subsidiary of MTGx International AB, which is publicly traded on the Stockholm Exchange. (Part of the Nasdaq group)

 

[DeletedUser7367]

Call it ludicrous all you want: Once an IPO becomes a Publicly traded & vested Company, their 'doings' are open to questioning at annual shareholder meetings. Ashrem? Do you hold any common or preferred shares in any Public Company? Do you even know what you're referring to? Noting that the Swede who owns 51% of the Company virtually would TRUMP any shareholder's complaints?? Relegates ALL of this to Whiskey Talk. Essentially, INNO can override ANYTHING they want, as a Publicly Traded Company, bast on the primary 'owner's' position..... The long and short of it? They can do whatever the hell they want to!

 

[Ashrem]

Call it ludicrous all you want: Once an IPO becomes a Publicly traded & vested Company, their 'doings' are open to questioning at annual shareholder meetings. Ashrem? Do you hold any common or preferred shares in any Public Company? Do you even know what you're referring to?

Yes, I do, and Yes, I do. And Yes, Inno is just as susceptible to lawsuits from players as any other company. If you're talking about shareholder lawsuits (which was in no way indicated by the post I responded to), then No, there wouldn't be hell to pay over these changes unless they cost shareholders money, which there is no sign of, and even if it ever happened, it wouldn't be a week after the change, so your claims are still ludicrous.

And they are owned by a publicly held company that is traded on an international stock exchange.

 

[DeletedUser7367]

Yes, I do, and Yes, I do. And Yes, Inno is just as susceptible to lawsuits from players as any other company. If you're talking about shareholder lawsuits (which was in no way indicated by the post I responded to), then No, there wouldn't be hell to pay over these changes unless they cost shareholders money, which there is no sign of, and even if it ever happened, it wouldn't be a week after the change, so your claims are still ludicrous.

And they are owned by a publicly held company that is traded on an international stock exchange.

Ashrem....kindly read what I ADDED onto my post after your reply..... We see things the same way..... not even 'ludicrous'. sigh. Just once I'd like to see you NOT slam any/everything I have to share.... THAT would make my day.