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    Your Elvenar Team

Player vs Player

DeletedUser

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First of all, i want to sory for my bad English and if any mod/admin know what i mean in exactly thing, pls edit my post and write it correctly ;)

I played a lot of games over the last 15 years and i took inspiration from them.

Preview


Player versus Player


Why? To steal resources/fight for the glory!

There will be no option to lose/capture city. There will be one addtional option- destroy Veteran Quarters maximum 2 levels.


New building

Veteran Quarters- this building will provide % defense to all defending units by increase their morale. This building will have 10 levels- each level will provide more % defense.

Also with higher level will increase chance to catch scout.

Example:

1 lvl- 2% defense and 4% scout detect
2 lvl- 4%/8%
.
.
10 lvl- 20%/40%



Scouting

With scouts you can get informations about enemies city. To spy on the village all you have to do is open map, click on city you want to spy and use option "Send Scouts". This will cost bigger if Veteran Quarters in enemy city have higher lvl.

You can defend against attacking scouts only by increase Veteran Quarters level.

Example:

1 lvl- 4% scout detect
2 lvl- 8%
.
.
10 lvl- 40%

Scout movement speed: 2 min every field betwen you and enemy city.

Cost: 100 gold every field between you and enemy city.

After successful spy you will get message with raport which show you:

-all sources
-all units in city
-Veteran Quarters lvl



New Tab in message window


-reports- there will be all report from PvP battle



New Tab in barrack window

-Army station- will show every army send/stationed to/in ally city



New stat added to all units

-speed- will show movement speed each unit

example:

Barbarian: 5 min each field betwen you and your enemy/ally city

Paladin: 10 min each field betwen you and your enemy/ally city

Attack will moving with slowest unit in army.

By field i mean every area with 8 points to capture.****



Meteor Rain*
*maybe this name will stay close in fantasy climate

Meteor rain can destroy opponent's Veteran Quarters- max 2 lvl each used.

How to use? To "bombs" enemy Veteran Quarters all you have to do is open map, click on city you want to attack and use option "Meteor Rain".

Cost: 10k gold each attack

Reus time: 5h



Attacking

Going to the map and click on the city that you want to attack. There you select "send attack". Then you select units you want to send.

There should be additional option: "Battle" or "Auto Battle" which determine how you want to fight.



Luck

Luck is a random component of every fight. Luck will be between -10 to +10% and it is always given from the attackers point of view. That mean if you are attacking with +10% luck it will increase attack power by 10%.



Defending

Every city will "auto defense"- computer will be defender. If you want to defense self, 5 minuts before attack incoming to your city should be option to set something like "Defense |x|"- this will make you defender and you will move your units in battlefield.

Player who defend will see in "Notifications" incoming attack.

Main Hall level will decide how much resources you can hide from attackers.

example:

1 lvl- 500 gold; 300 supply; 50 planks, steel.....
2 lvl- 2000 gold; 1200 supply; 100 planks, steel.....

If the stored resources will be low attacker don't get anything.



Supporting

By supporting I mean fight with ally shoulder to shoulder.

You can send army as support to your ally city.

There is no any restriction- you can send as many support as you want, until the strategy allows you to do this.

How? Going to the map and click on the city that you want to support . Now click on "support" and set army you want send.

All send army will move with slowest unit movement speed.

When your support army are attacked in ally player city you will receive a report which show you how many units you lost, who attacked and his army.

If army no need anymore in ally village you can get them back.




I dont have any more idea right now. Now its your job to do what you want but this will improve your game over 9000! ;)
 

DeletedUser7

Guest
So you telling me I should start getting my troops ready for battle? I like the sound of this!
 

DeletedUser

Guest
-1 until....

You post that it'll be totally optional to participate, and 2 no goods, supplys ect are taken from the loser.

Reasons being i play FoE and its a joke you can't defend in that game (yes i know about timing good/supply/gold pick up) Until i can activly run my defense in this game i have 0 interest in any form of "pvp" (isnt pvp as is its player vs AI)

With that said id love to see some real player vs player where both partys control the units.

Edit: There are thousands of games on the market already where you fight to take ppls "stuff" honestly theres room for a few you don't ;) Also understand i have and am playing a lot of the "attack and take" games out there and enjoy them, just don't want this to turn into another.
 
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DeletedUser

Guest
I would be careful about doing PvP [I do not mean that you should not]
I used to play Evony, I had played it for 6 months and I had 5 cities,
I came home one day and found that someone had taken all 5 cities
and I would have to start over, with a brand new city,
So I quit - I do not like spending 6 months [or more] and have nothing to show for it.
if you do PvP, I think that it should be an Arena type [Challenge another's City's Army in battle]
or as a raid on another City for Resources or something like that
 

DeletedUser59

Guest
I have to agree with Jorills, if you want to participate in a war game with attacking and plundering of your neighbours, PvP and GvG as per several other Innogames then by all means go and play them but why does every city building, strategy game have to be turned into a war-game?

I would much rather see better quests set up to engage us and make us use strategic skills to achieve them than to end up with yet another mindless war-game ...
 

DeletedUser

Guest
I would be careful about doing PvP [I do not mean that you should not]
I used to play Evony, I had played it for 6 months and I had 5 cities,
I came home one day and found that someone had taken all 5 cities
and I would have to start over, with a brand new city,
So I quit - I do not like spending 6 months [or more] and have nothing to show for it.
if you do PvP, I think that it should be an Arena type [Challenge another's City's Army in battle]
or as a raid on another City for Resources or something like that

Read carefully my first post :p "There will be no option to lose/capture city."


Guys, if you want to play with farming game you can also play farmville... talk like "if you want pvp go play another games" its not argument.

I want to hear something from Administration because if they dont mind to add PvP i will quit and this game will never be popular like others. Fighting vs computer its not challenge anymore, its not 1995 year.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Accually in 1995 i was playing a game called The realm and fully pvp'ed all the time.

Check out the beta forum for the 6 page thread on pvp (not sure if im allowed to link posts on the beta forum or not as you need to be playing on the beta server to access it)

In this game to attack peoples towns it wont be pvp itll be player vs AI. Is no way they could code it where both partys could be available to be online at the same time. Problem with that is these games AI suck, you can't defend. Been other options people have suggested such as a ladder based arena ect.

And as far as some saying go play another game, your saying the same thing when you say go play farm ville ;)
 

DeletedUser

Guest
And as far as some saying go play another game, your saying the same thing when you say go play farm ville ;)

Yes, thats why i wrote it ;)

This "project" its just suggestion, administrators will do what they want with it but tell me something. How you see this game after few months? What will you do when you took all your land so there will be no option to build something new; you will discover huge terrain and still do same thing xxxxx times. Right now TOP players is that one who spend more $$ for diamonds. nothing will be change in future, players like me who dont have cash for diamonds never will be like them, thats why i want pvp where i can show with strategy that spending cash its not everything ^^

btw. I was one of the best players in Polish Tribal Wars.
 

DeletedUser59

Guest
How you see this game after few months? What will you do when you took all your land so there will be no option to build something new; you will discover huge terrain and still do same thing xxxxx

This game is new and is therefore open to new ideas rather than just repeating old ones by turning into yet another war-game.
I have never played Farmville and the name alone applies that it is going to be a boring game but this could turn into a great strategy game with great quests requiring skill and thinking to achieve them.
It is fresh, it is new and as long as we have the patience to watch it grow it could turn into something unique and different ...and different is GOOD
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Malgoth, I was not saying that your idea was a problem, I was just explaining why I feel that you need to be careful with PvP.
I think that your idea would work, They [Admin] most likely would change some things, but if it stayed close to that,
then I would not see a problem.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Folks I also have played Evony and many more as well as I am in 2 worlds in FOE. So far I have found the best to be FOE for PVP and GVG. I am not a big fan of it but it can be fun if done right. For the most part I have found that it turns out to be the following .....

A bunch of thieving BULLIES that ban together to terrorize the little PPl trying to have fun. Also it evolves into who can spend the most wins!! To date the best is FOE except some of the GVG (Guild VS Guild). and they are working on that to improve it.

I say.... If you do have it then make it voluntary and on a special battle field just for it. Leave the robbing, stealing, plundering of player's city out all together. Offer rewards to winners etc. and try to make it as even as possible for everyone not just the ones with VERY VERY DEEP Pockets rofl!! Also make it where the fighting is of the same lvl or at least closer ( 3 up or 3 down).

I know this is a lot to ask but this is a builder game and as someone said... If you want war then find a war game!! Let's keep this one fun for everyone. Not all of use have deep pockets!! I for 1 am a Disable Viet Nam VET and on a very small fixed income but enjoy the game!!

Thank you all!!
GB
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Perhaps this could evolve into clans/guilds where trade and diplomatic resolution as opposed to war are the objectives. Sometimes when I set up a game in Civ4 I set it up so there can be no war only diplomacy. Something to think about.
 

DeletedUser460

Guest
Please don't make this a war game. There are already so many of those around. I like the challenge of city building. I don't like logging in to find my city and resources have been devastated while I was offline. I have played those types of games and people do gang up on you even if you join a strong guild.
City planning involves balancing and planning ahead to have the resources to complete research or mission goals. I would like to see more of those types of challenges in this game.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
I would probably not play if there was an unavoidable PvP element to it, and I'd spend a lot less time in game even if I was given the choice to avoid a conflict before it happened. I'd definitely stop paying for it (why pay for resources that will be destroyed?). The appeal for me is in playing a fantasy flavored city SIM game; if I want conflict and challenge against fellow players, that's when I'd log into RIFT or ArchAge (Besides, PvP battles are far more engaging for me when it's in '3D', so to speak.)...or I'd drag out the chess board.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
I quit FoE because of the PvP element. I was looking for a peaceful city building game and found Elvenar. As others have already mentioned, I do not want to work hard only to find that someone has stolen all my resources while I was away. Seems to be a waste of time.
 
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