How do you deal with a no-help request? (And how People Negatively Interact on Forums)

[Fiona Selah]

I send out a massive formation of 950 squads of Ax Barbarians to sack the city of the ungrateful wench! In a wedge formation. On each flank, the Barbarians are followed by 600 squads of Priests. Each of these Priest formations is escorted by 400 squads of Orc Strats. Just in case any pesky light melee or light range appear. And there is a reserve formation of 500 Paladins to lead the initial charge through the city gates of the ingrate!

Wait, Elvenar is not that kind of game? I can't send out my massive armies to utterly destroy their city? The absolute worst thing I can do to them is ignore them? Boy, they sure are lucky...

You are just frakkin' Hilarious!!! . Love it... muahahahaha!

 

[Darielle]

I would simply write back and say:

Thank you for your note. Most newer players actually need the coins/supplies they get from returning gifts, no matter the original gift, but if you'd rather just use diamonds to buy those things, I'll try to comply with your wishes. A good way to avoid gifts is to never click to return them. Eventually, you drop off the list and are only "bothered" with gifts when players do a full sweep of all neighbors, which is less frequent. I hope that tip helps!

I have made a great many friends in our neighborhood, out of the 340 neighbors we share (or that you will share with me eventually). I'll make sure my friends know that you don't want extra coins/supplies. Most big players only gift to help the little guys anyway. We try to be nice. We have more coins/supplies/culture than we know what to do with and neighbor visits take tons of time, even when we fly through the list and don't stop to check every name, as you request. So you may still get unwanted gifts from us. I heartily apologize for that!

On a bright note, it's much easier to avoid names on the trader than it is on the gift list. I'm usually helping all the little guys with their trades there, so I may still take one of yours on occasion. But I'll do my best to comply with your wish not to have help. Thanks for letting me know. My best to you. I'm sure you'll need it in future!

 

[Fiona Selah]

We had someone leave our Fs over mis-clicking. Someone I really liked and had fun in chat with. It's too bad that the fun we had chatting didn't outweigh their being annoyed at fs members trying to get through help quickly! I'd choose the fun social aspect of the game and do the whole 'water off a duck's back' thing... (leaving the duck with SoggyShorts on of course... tee hee)

 

[Lelanya]

We had someone leave our Fs over mis-clicking. Someone I really liked and had fun in chat with. It's too bad that the fun we had chatting didn't outweigh their being annoyed at fs members trying to get through help quickly! I'd choose the fun social aspect of the game and do the whole 'water off a duck's back' thing... (leaving the duck with SoggyShorts on of course... tee hee)

Aww my mentor was like this too. An inconsiderate player had him just livid.

 

[Myne]

I think it IS a thing with certain players...that said, if you have that much trouble accepting that folks are gonna do what THEY want instead of what YOU want, you need a chill pill. I think even those folks mis click or zone out and auto click during neighborly help and just don't want to admit it.
HOWEVER, I do at least try to comply. If I ever received one of those messages from someone I most certainly would institute the @SoggyShorts method, because let's face it, who doesn't enjoy annoying an Ahole??

 

[Duke00012]

all you people who think it's no big deal...players put their preferences for a reason; they play the game the way they want to and not dictated by others...the rest of you who replied 'tough, i'm doing it my way' only prove how selfish and how righteous you are...i yearn for the good old days when players were kind even to their neighbors.
(guess i better be careful unless ashrem closes this discussion, too, cause it doesn't fit his opinion)

 

[crackie]

all you people who think it's no big deal...players put their preferences for a reason; they play the game the way they want to and not dictated by others...the rest of you who replied 'tough, i'm doing it my way' only prove how selfish and how righteous you are...i yearn for the good old days when players were kind even to their neighbors.
(guess i better be careful unless ashrem closes this discussion, too, cause it doesn't fit his opinion)

That's a silly argument opinion because I'm also playing the game "the way I want and not dictated by others" by getting through my NH as fast as I can without having to take a day off work to get through them all and bothering to read what the hell everyone named their cities. They're all getting culture because I am right handed and that's the closest click to closing the window as my next move. Naming your cities to include your NH preference is a hack, not really part of the official game play or rules. It's ridiculous to think people need to adhere to your preferences while simultaneously stand adament that they should not bother visiting you at all because at the heart of that point is yeah, the whole NH mechanism is OPTIONAL. I don't have to visit anyone, just like I don't have to chose the help preference they want. People who think their fake digital game coins, culture bonus, and speed of their builders can possibly be more important than how I value my time is pretty self righteous and selfish!

 

[SoggyShorts]

all you people

I'm starting to understand the 86 FS changes you've made...

 

[Duke00012]

please explain to me why MY opinion is considered an argument? and soggy you don't need to be judgemental, especially about something you have no clue about...

 

[crackie]

please explain to me why MY opinion is considered an argument? and soggy you don't need to be judgemental, especially about something you have no clue about...

Because that's what that word means in the English language:

• a coherent series of reasons, statements, or facts intended to support or establish a point of view
• a reason given for or against a matter under discussion
• a form of rhetorical expression intended to convince or persuade

If it makes you feel better, I have edited my previous post to reflect your preferred wording.

 

[Duke00012]

Because that's what that word means in the English language

man, have i been mistaken...[MOD EDIT] text removed

 

[SoggyShorts]

soggy you don't need to be judgemental, especially about something you have no clue about...

I'm being judgemental about your posts the past few days on these forums, and you'll have a hard time convincing anyone there's no correlation between your abrasive personality and changing Fellowships 86 times...

 

[TomatoeHu]

man, have i been mistaken...[MOD EDIT} text removed from quoted post

I am a Tomatoe. And i'd visit nine times a week if i could

 

[mucksterme]

all you people who think it's no big deal...players put their preferences for a reason; they play the game the way they want to and not dictated by others...the rest of you who replied 'tough, i'm doing it my way' only prove how selfish and how righteous you are...i yearn for the good old days when players were kind even to their neighbors.
(guess i better be careful unless ashrem closes this discussion, too, cause it doesn't fit his opinion)

Two friendly bits of advice

One : relax

B : You really should learn the difference between Ashrem and Astram if you care about your future here.

 

[Darielle]

all you people who think it's no big deal...players put their preferences for a reason; they play the game the way they want to and not dictated by others...the rest of you who replied 'tough, i'm doing it my way' only prove how selfish and how righteous you are...i yearn for the good old days when players were kind even to their neighbors.
(guess i better be careful unless ashrem closes this discussion, too, cause it doesn't fit his opinion)

Spoken like someone with less than 50 neighbors. If you ever wind up with 300 or more, you'll get off your high horse and realize that big players are only giving gifts to help OTHERS ... they don't need your silly coins and supplies or anything else. They're fine without it. They're spending an extra 15 or 20 minutes a day flying through a list so that newer players like you can have some badly needed coins/supplies/culture or building help. For that favor, we are abused by (deleted) who think, "Well, I can carefully look at EVERY ONE of my 20 neighbors when I click, and it only takes me an extra minute to be careful. They can too!" Sigh ... some people.

(Or if you have 300, though I doubt it, I'll bet any money that you don't visit every one often ... you probably only visit the ones who visit you first, so you can squeeze the most out of those golden hands. Me ... I don't give a dang whether the hands are gold or not, but that's because I'm actually trying to help.)

 

[InfamousPhoenix]

Imagine a neighbour wrote to you and asked you to stop helping them because you don't pay attention to their requested help format. They've never helped you. Probably can't even reach you if you're gauging their city size correctly.

Would you put in the extra effort to get it right for that one city that isn't returning your help? Would you actually try to remember not to help them? Do you respond at all, or just shake your head and move on?

I fail to see the problem. I try to grant the request of the person I am visiting. Many players have a strategy the are using, Courtesy is contagious

 

[Duke00012]

Spoken like someone with less than 50 neighbors. If you ever wind up with 300 or more, you'll get off your high horse and realize that big players are only giving gifts to help OTHERS

why are you so bitter? i have 18 pgs. of neighbors...i have no high horse and an enormous neighborhood...some return the visit, some don't...and you shouldn't assume that i'm new, been playing probably longer than you, probably why you seem so sanctimonious

 

[Darielle]

I fail to see the problem. I try to grant the request of the person I am visiting. Many players have a strategy the are using, Courtesy is contagious

Courtesy goes both ways. When huge players give me gifts, I know they don't need my help and they are doing it just to be nice to me. I also know they have tons of neighbors and that they are going fast because frankly, it's boring to click hundreds of times every day. So I don't get mad when they misclick. They're already going out of their way to help me. I am courteous enough not to ask them to spend 2x as long trying to make sure to give the exact correct gift to each of their hundreds of neighbors. It's called common decency.

 

[Fiona Selah]

why are you so bitter? i have 18 pgs. of neighbors...i have no high horse and an enormous neighborhood...some return the visit, some don't...and you shouldn't assume that i'm new, been playing probably longer than you, probably why you seem so sanctimonious

I find it odd that you keep calling out people by name, calling others bitter, critical, sanctimonious, childish, etc. We do note that it's all in bold letters intimating at your extreme anger instead of just posting your opposite opinion which you have a right to.

But then you turn around and accuse others of bad behavior?

As many of us have stated, we do our best to honor what players want. But when someone who like you, has the childhood playground attitude of putting people down, and by name too, sends a nasty message players have the right to opine with a negative attitude towards that player's message.




Heres the big kicker: The original poster did NOT name the person. They kept it quite inoffensive Imo. You have not. It's too bad as members here, who are all behaving quite maturely, would be absolutely fine with having a non-confrontational discussion.

You were extremely confrontational from the beginning.

 

[juniperknome]

first guess is he is trying to complete a quest. some ask for the culture to drop. cause me some issues way back