Not enough Pet food

[StarLoad]

Bringing up an issue of disparity between the normal ranks of players is not the same as asking INNO to change the availability, I would be fine if it was the same for all but that is clearly not the case and that IS wrong. We (I mean in the collective sense) complained about the Fire Chicken and that you could craft but not evolve it and that player without it are at a disadvantage as compared to others. What happens, we get a change to the Spire that offers a chance at artifacts.

SOMEBODY is listening just saying....

 

[GlamDoll]

SOMEBODY is listening just saying....

So true! JS? More like spitting facts, imho. I stand corrected.

 

[samidodamage]

Your asking inno to increase the availability of pet food so you can get around the tournament changes.

That doesn't seem quite a fair statement.
Inno offered those evolving pet bldgs as prizes. Some players worked really hard and/or spent real money to get those prizes. At the time of the first offering in the Phoenix Event (Fire Phoenix, Storm Phoenix, and Aureate Phoenix), there was a huge marketing effort explaining the 'pets' and the new resource 'pet food'. Here's a copy/paste of a quote from that first announcement (it wouldn't let me do an actual 'quote'):
"You can earn more Pet Food by finishing the quests of the event or craft it yourself in the Magic Academy. The recipes remain available after the event ends, so you can keep feeding your Phoenixes as you please."
You can find that original announcement here.
Then they offered more pets in the Zodiac Event (Brown Bear, Polar Bear, Panda Bear). These bldgs also use pet food. The following Phoenix Event offered another pet (ColdFire Phoenix) and provided recipes to craft the new artifacts into artifacts for the prior year's Phoenix pets. The following Zodiac Event did the same with the Bears.
Over the course of 2 years of events, many players invested in those pets. Personally, I have the Fire and Storm Phoenix as well as the Brown and Polar Bear in both my cities.
While I used to think the RNG hated me, I've decided it really hates @ed1960
The difference between pet food offered for crafting in his cities vs mine is extreme, imo. So extreme, I don't think it can be explained by my ability to conserve pet food. My current pet food inventory is 101 in one city; 197 in the other. That means the original statement of 'keep feeding your Phoenixes as you please' is true for me. For him, not so much. As I see it, this statement sums up the issue:

an issue of disparity between the normal ranks of players is not the same as asking INNO to change the availability

 

[Iyapo1]

. We (I mean in the collective sense) complained about the Fire Chicken and that you could craft but not evolve it and that player without it are at a disadvantage as compared to others. What happens, we get a change to the Spire that offers a chance at artifacts.

It is wonderful that artifacts are being made available but as they are being offered in place of the moonstone library (for a limited time?)it brings in the whole luck/chance thing again.
Some players will be showered in artifacts and some players will not be.
I am just not going to get all excited about being able to get 9 artifacts until I actually get 9 artifacts.

 

[StarLoad]

Some players will be showered in artifacts and some players will not be.

And that along with the pet food and the Sentient goods is what is hurting the game now ... Artificial inadequacies created by the actions of INNO.

 

[Alram]

... Artificial inadequacies created by the actions of INNO.

Inno did not choose how many pets you have or which ones. You did.

 

[StarLoad]

Inno did not choose how many pets you have or which ones. You did.

You are correct and very astute to point out that fact. I am sure that is why you have no Evolving Bldgs in your city, Just to avoid the need for Pet food. Or is it that you don't like Pets, I personally love my pets and as you can see from my avatar he is my Fav.

 

[Lelanya]

You are correct and very astute to point out that fact. I am sure that is why you have no Evolving Bldgs in your city, Just to avoid the need for Pet food. Or is it that you don't like Pets, I personally love my pets and as you can see from my avatar he is my Fav.

AWW
How is your crafting going Ed? Have you tried holding a relics quest?

 

[StarLoad]

Picked up one pet food and used it so still at 4 and still getting days of relics, I picked up a relic for a quest and next up was another relic.

 

[StarLoad]

And it just cycled over to a new rotation .... Relic again

 

[Henroo]

There can be a significant difference in pet food based on RNG. I have 3 cities. 1 is in Halflings, 2 are in Sorcerers and Dragons. Each has a Fire Phoenix and Brown Bear (all partially evolved from the Coldfire and Moonbear events). I use 3 pet foods a week on Fire Phoenix for the tournament. I play 2 rounds on each feeding. I wait to do Spire until my Phoenix is fed. I also usually use 1 pet food on the Brown Bear a week to help keep troops trained. So I am using 4 pet foods a week in each city. Pet food is my #1 priority in Magic Academy. I make it every time I see it, in each city. So there is no difference in my play style from city to city. Despite playing all 3 the exact same way for months, I have 47 pet food in Khel, 29 in Arendyll, and 49 in Winy. That is a pretty big difference considering I play them all the exact same way.

 

[SoggyShorts]

There can be a significant difference in pet food based on RNG.

The RNG is rough in Elvenar.
2 cites one with 6 full library sets, one with zero due to never winning an endless scroll.

 

[Deleted User - 1178646]

The RNG is rough in Elvenar.
2 cites one with 6 full library sets, one with zero due to never winning an endless scroll.

true, but when I hear some scream about pet food on near every cycle it makes me wonder how serious you should take such a person.
is he/she really that unlucky? or is it just a big whiner, who only whines to whine.

how big is the chance he/she is the 0.000000000000001% they claim to be?

 

[BrinDarby]

I see no unaffiliated 3rd party, certify'n the RNG here.... so has
anyone given thought to the fact that things we think are random,
in reality, are anything but.... Constantly in the Tournament discussion
thread people complain, now they are drained of everything, where
before they were accumulating stuff.....( wink wink , nudge nudge )

a perfect example is, within a cater, in the spire, lets say u need more coins.
Untill you come outta that cater, you can't just use a instant, even if you
have zillions of them.... NO, all you can do is use diamonds, or everything
spent on that cater , up to that point is wasted cause you cannot solve.

Inno knows this, and they won't chg it, cause the point is to have players
spend diamonds, thus hopefully increase revenue when they buy more.

I have completed the Spire, every week, for last 5 months aprox.....
I can tell you for a fact, not just I suspect, a fact ..... when you get low
on 1-2 things, it starts asking for more of them, more often....

There is NOTHING random about that, its by design, yet we are led
to believe ... everything is random and on the up&up....

When I need'd relics for tasks, all I saw was pet food for a few days.....
and when pet food usage was a task, duhh seems all I saw for 36 hrs
was relics....

Just like the tournament chgs, the events (& FAs) are not there to be fun to play,
challange our brains, or foster better FS coordination...... they are there to drain
players of what they work hard to collect so the game is funner to play, knowing\
they have what they need to play with ..... @CrazyWizard is right on point, when
he says the changes are having the desired effect..... draining troops, instants,
diamonds, & $$$$$ from your pocketbook......

This is exactly why, less/less stuff is Fun... and more/more its like a J.O.B.

 

[StarLoad]

true, but when I hear some scream about pet food on near every cycle it makes me wonder how serious you should take such a person.
is he/she really that unlucky? or is it just a big whiner, who only whines to whine.

how big is the chance he/she is the 0.000000000000001% they claim to be?

I am so very sorry, that my "whining" bothered you so much. It pains me to think that I failed to live up to your standards and have caused you to doubt me. Clearly, I was incorrect to point out my failure within the game as some sort of inequality caused by the game itself. It must be me that is the issue and never the game itself. Obviously, I must strive to be more like Soggy, so you will believe me as you do him.

Anything else I would say, well that would get me censored, so I will leave it at that.

 

[Lelanya]

Aww Ed, I am here for you hon!

 

[SoggyShorts]

I was incorrect to point out my failure within the game as some sort of inequality caused by the game itself. It must be me that is the issue and never the game itself. Obviously, I must strive to be more like Soggy, so you will believe me as you do him.

The thing is that it's largely a combination of recency and survivorship bias.
Given the number of players and the desired recipes in the MA, someone is virtually guaranteed to have outlier results, and they are far more likely to bring it up on the forums than anyone who gets close to average results.

On the opposite end, you have @BrinDarby's conspiracy nut theories above. Total nonsense, but he believes that the game asks for resources that you don't have more often than not. The reality, of course, is that he doesn't notice when it asks for coins if he has enough coins, he only notices when it asks for X if he's short on X.

I was a casino games manager for 3 years and I've seen it all. Crazy streaks of luck like yours (and good ones too), but what I saw far more often was players like Darby who said that "I haven't had a blackjack in XX hands" or "whenever I have a 20 the dealer pulls a 21" and a simple review of the tape shows that they ignore the times when the dealer did not beat their 20 because it's expected and they just focus on the rare occasion that they lose that hand because it upsets them.
I personally witnessed a 4x on our roulette tables twice. Each with less than a 1 in 2 million chance, and I very much remember them, even every player who was at the table and which dealers were working.
Normal, 1x repeats happen 1 in 38 times, and I can't recall a single one.

 

[NightshadeCS]

When the developers so often reply to our requests with the "too much effort" excuse, I doubt they are putting extra coding resources into something that can just use an RNG. Occam's Razor, la la la.

 

[SoggyShorts]

When the developers so often reply to our requests with the "too much effort" excuse, I doubt they are putting extra coding resources into something that can just use an RNG. Occam's Razor, la la la.

Indeed.
"They hate me, they make it this way to screw me over!"
-No honey, the truth is they don't even know who you are and you're not worth the effort to hate.

 

[StarLoad]

You all have me rolling in Laughter, and thank you I needed that.