Gold Spire rewards including Diamonds, I am sure you have calculated all of this out and that is why you are participating in this behavior. If there was no benefit to you then I am sure you wouldn't participate in this behavior. And before you go off, you admitted to participating in this behavior.
I am participating in it?
I said once you guarantee it people will be more willing to go to the top
and you don't even need it
Also I am participating into nothing we don't need it, we get between 1550-1575 points a week with 25 unique players (no alts allowed), and due to a change in players got once above 1575.
We really do not care of we get place 1 or place 400, as long as gold is gold.
but I have absolutely no issues with it if a fellowship uses it to make that jump, I rather have them use a tactic like that then kicking out 12 players destroy there fellowship and using multiple alts because those 12 want the diamonds and do not have the time to wait for others to come around (this is actually the most common strategy I have seen)
If any fellowship wants to get all out and het 2000 points, why would I care? it's not a battle, we already have gold thats all we need.
And those 2000 might be cool for those in that fellowship but it will make them look bad to outsiders.
but if you just want to reach gold for all I care use it, I have seen fellowships use it for a few weeks at most before they became stable gold fellowships. imagine you spending 200 diamonds and then you miss it on 5 points (and 1 player refuses to do 1 step more, yes that top level fellowship for 5 years no longer exist it was explosive.) the chance of you spending 200 diamonds again next time is zero to none, for your de spire is destroyed. if an alt can fix that and makes them all happy I am in for it.
I do not understand why that loophole must be closed.
If it would not hurt anyone, fine close it. stops some annoying whining of some.
But this
DOES hurt many players, not because they would no longer get gold anymore, but because there ability to switch between fellowships would be a tiny timed window or they would miss out of spire access, or they need to leave there current fellowship just before the end of the tournament (and that also removed those points from the tournament score which could penalise the former fellowship and you'll be the bad player who left)
So if we have an issue that has no impact on any other players game (if I get gold of bronze it does not impact you in any way)
But if we "fix" it it will hurt all players. would it make even sense to consider it?
This issue only exist in some peoples mind because they made a "battle" out of the ranking system.
While there is absolutely no difference between the nr 1 and nr 2 or 3 or whatever as long as it's gold that ranking has no other value to show how far a fellowship is towards bronze, silver or gold.
It allows you when switching fellowships to see which fellowship barely gets silver and which might become a gold one in the furture.
But some of you, are battling for 1st, and if another fellowship surpasses you because for example a player who switched sides and now the fellowship gets 1611 points it's the end of the world. you got there first, and it's yours to claim. they destoyed your personal game and now you ego has been hurt.
At the same time the other 30000 players on your world can't care less, but you are furious. this must be fixed, it's cheating!
I am sorry but hurting millions of players across many servers and many worlds just to statisfy your ego is pathetic, ridiculous and selfish.
An accidental leaving of the fellowship, and accidental kick from a mage, leaving for a minute to help a friend out to find out it takes 24h to be allowed to return, being kicked from a fellowship for whatever reason the (arch)mage decided will hurt you as you will be locked out of the spire and all your progress is lost. you can no longer join another fellowship and recover as like an FA once started you're no longer eligable for the spire.
Imagine you being a member of a religious group that does not allow modern equipement like computers and phones on sunday. you'll be unable to switch guilds without damages. so many people would be hurt if the spire gets locked for no good reason.
The FA has a competitive component to it, it makes sense to lock out players to keep the competition going, spire has no competitive part there is nothing to win there based on your ranking, it only has a cooperative part that churns out rewards.
btw you screamed it was cheating here and cheating there and pushing here and pushing there.
I just pointed out that according to the rules it's neither pushing nor cheating.