Ashrem
Oh Wise One
"Complete X 3hr/9hr/24hr productions in any Goods buildings of your current chapter OR your previous chapter Or complete 3hr/9hr/9hr of any sentient good (max 8/4/2)
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DeletedUser12815
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My WS's are level 33. Are you saying I can only use level 30+ WS's in this event? You realize how long it takes to build a level 30 workshop, right?
DeletedUser12815
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Tomatoe always speaks the truth. I would 100% trust and agree with anything they say... and you can take that to the bank! Tomatoes's narrative is extremely well thought out and complete. Inno, fix it!
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The Unbeliever
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Clearly you missed the part about;
a) ANY goods building will work. (T1 - T3 for the 24hr production/s)
b) Who upgrades their T1-3 boosted to Sentient anyways? The goods boost overall is tiny, your T4-6 will just decay back into T1-3, and the pop/culture is better spent on the required T4-6 anyways.
c) Previous research will work just fine!!
ie: Anyone who's progressed into Elementals -> Constructs can still use the previous research levels. (ie: Wood Elves)
If/when new chapters are released that truly "break" the quest, then it can be modified at that point.
DeletedUser18810
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I do not like the Quest format for this or the previous one. You can't plan your moves. Enjoyment gone. Makes you want to give up before you start.
Building Level requirements should of been announced in the game. One spot says Buildings up to three Levels back. Another spot says I have to have current Level 24s. Which is it?
I can't get Provence Expansions any more. Now I need level 24 buildings which I have no room for. Also no room for my new race buildings. Deleted a lot.
Level 24 Goods is no good for FA, but the Quest wants them. Means double the Goods buildings without Space increase.
Big Time Bummer!
Building Level requirements should of been announced in the game. One spot says Buildings up to three Levels back. Another spot says I have to have current Level 24s. Which is it?
I can't get Provence Expansions any more. Now I need level 24 buildings which I have no room for. Also no room for my new race buildings. Deleted a lot.
Level 24 Goods is no good for FA, but the Quest wants them. Means double the Goods buildings without Space increase.
Big Time Bummer!
DeletedUser18810
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Definitely need Level 24 buildings. Level 23s didn't complete the Task.
Deleted User - 3932582
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It's the same as the last event, and almost the same as the Summer Solstice. We haven't had 4 full weeks for a major event in quite a while (Phoenix probably).
Pheryll
Set Designer
When you say chapter, you mean research level. When Inno says chapter and means chapter, you say they can't do math and are fibbers.
Ashrem
Oh Wise One
I guess I never noticed. this will be the first time in quite a while that I won't be able to get the buildings I want at a useful level.
qaccy
Well-Known Member
I like this idea! Taking the current system for FA quests and adapting it for events sounds pretty convenient. Allowing a scout to run in the background while working on the other quests in a set allows scouting to still be the intended 'roadblock' for late-game players without the frustration of hoping a scout quest comes up before your scout finishes or waiting until the quest appears and then doing nothing for the entire scouting time.
The Unbeliever
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They made that exact exception for the workshops 'at current chapter or 3 previous', but managed to forget to implement that same exception for the goods factories...
My Ork city can use Lv9-15 workshops for this event just fine, despite that the 'superior' research IIRC, is technically 4 chapters behind my current Ch.8 (as there's no Ch.5 research for workshops)
But suddenly that exact same rule no longer applies as soon as you switch to goods, which makes 0 sense... so instead of actually getting the benefit of the 'previous chapter', I just get screwed because I'm simply in the wrong chapter.
DeletedUser12564
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Like you were reading my mind.
And what about people who battle exclusively? One of my FS fellows is a fighter, and he has a single T-1 building, a single T-2 building, and two T-3 buildings. 5 two day productions for that poor guy..it would that long or longer to level more buildings to his chapter so he's just screwed. Jesus Inno, the very least you could have done was announce this before the event instead of hoping most people would just get eff'd and have to buy keys. The only reason anyone in my fellowship knew about your new rules was because of a third party site. Shame on you for being so cheaty.
This is sad. I liked this game a lot and hadn't really had a problem helping support Inno's production and hosting of it. Past tense.
I thought using Wonders was part of the strategy of working within space restrictions imposed by regular gameplay. I am 100% supplies and gold maxed 95% of the time thanks to this strat with six workshops that are three chapters behind my current research -and the only reason they're this leveled is because the orcs and goblins buildings are ugly. Maybe if I was only running the 4 I had planned to reduce my count to I would need them upgraded, but keeping buildings at my research level means I'd be fighting for very limited space to place them. Unless, of course, I pay for expansions..wink wink..nudge nudge.
I have 5 T-1 goods buildings, two of which are leveled to my current chapter, the rest are in Woodelves still because I have over 6 million planks and didn't need to have the buildings leveled to current chapter. If I had moved a little faster in my city arranging I would only have two T-1 production buildings because I just don't need to have any more. And I cater 90% of the time.
By the way Inno, T-1 goods production..do you even actually play this game in a non god-mode capacity? Have you looked at the listed trades? How about balancing the gameplay this game is supposed to be about instead of making a hundred events and side quests in an attempt to keep players playing, and paying for, a broken main game?
Using an AW to aid my goods production while keeping building count low and size/arrangement manageable given the space constraints and the need to keep population high enough to advance seemed to be the strategy to "win" the game.I guess we're not supposed to win though, just keep coming back to an increasingly boring game that's only new offerings are events and contests that require revamping playstyle for the main game.
I notice that events and playthroughs of the black hole come fast and furious lately, but new research and settlement chapters are few and far between. Is this the trend now? If we don't like gambling and the new play our way system we can always sit around waiting for a new chapter?
These changes are disheartening and disappointing, and lately I've been liking Elvenar and Inno enough to log in about once a day; I help my fellows, turn over productions, start a scout if the last one has finally finished, mouse over an upgrading building, note the remaining 24+ hours left on the upgrade, get bored, go to a different game, spend the money I used to give to Inno on the other game. I put some emphasis on that just in case Inno actually does read these. It seemed important to highlight the loss they might actually care about.
DeletedUser19458
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They made that exact exception for the workshops 'at current chapter or 3 previous', but managed to forget to implement that same exception for the goods factories...
My Ork city can use Lv9-15 workshops for this event just fine, despite that the 'superior' research IIRC, is technically 4 chapters behind my current Ch.8 (as there's no Ch.5 research for workshops)
But suddenly that exact same rule no longer applies as soon as you switch to goods, which makes 0 sense... so instead of actually getting the benefit of the 'previous chapter', I just get screwed because I'm simply in the wrong chapter.
Worked fine for me. Did you actually try it or just stating it? I am in Halflings and quest I just did said "current or previous chapter" to collect some T1. There is no research in previous chapter so it is actually research from 2 chapters ago in woodelves. I collected my T1 and carried on.
Pheryll
Set Designer
They never stated that they intended to implement chapter -3 to goods factories.
Risen Malchiah
Well-Known Member
For Constructs, you only need lvl 26 workshops. Still takes a long time to level up from scratch, but at least you don't have to take them all the way to 30.
Orcs players are in a decent position. You've got the benefit of orc residence population but only need dwarf-level factories. Fairies players have it a lot worse as they're far less likely to have the population to support too many dwarven factories. I know I didn't when I was in fairies and I let them lag behind a bit until I was in Orcs.My Ork city can use Lv9-15 workshops for this event just fine, despite that the 'superior' research IIRC, is technically 4 chapters behind my current Ch.8 (as there's no Ch.5 research for workshops)
But suddenly that exact same rule no longer applies as soon as you switch to goods, which makes 0 sense... so instead of actually getting the benefit of the 'previous chapter', I just get screwed because I'm simply in the wrong chapter.
DeletedUser12564
Guest
Is that mix and match? Er..does that mean that collecting a quest requiring 10 of some such good could be completed collecting 5 from one manufactory, 3 from another, and 2 from another? That would make it a lot nicer on pure battlers, not that I'm one, just that it seems less hurtful for those who are.
Risen Malchiah
Well-Known Member
Absolutely!
Believe it or not, I *support* having minimum level requirements for the sake of balance. But doing it now after years of doing things differently *without announcing the changes* is a huge middle finger to the players. This should have been made crystal clear in-game weeks in advance.
Enevhar Aldarion
Oh Wise One
If you are in any of the chapters that do not include tier 1 research, then you only get your current because you unlocked it in a previous chapter. So yes, the way it worked for you is correct. But you are restricted to only those Woodelf-level factories. If you were still in Woodelves, you would be able to use the Woodelf-level factories or the Dwarf-level factories.
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